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twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:00 pm
JKLivin wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:00 pm
ousdahl wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:48 am If you’re concerned about making others feel unsafe, why are you cool with letting kids run around playing with assault rifles?

And do you really think property is more valuable than human lives?

And this response is telling: “you invite people showing up with assault rifles.” You almost make it sound like Kyle went there looking for trouble.
You keep creating a false dichotomy with your human lives vs. private property question. Both are important, and neither should be endangered. The only people who don't care about property being destroyed are those who either a) own nothing of value and/or b) are not the owners of the property being destroyed.

He went there to defend property which should not have been under threat in the first place. Being upset and outraged is not justification for wanton destruction of property that does not belong to you.
He didn't go there to defend any property. Just stop with that nonsense.
Sorry. Didn’t realize you were the final authority on what happened. 🙄
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JKLivin wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:30 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:00 pm
JKLivin wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:00 pm

You keep creating a false dichotomy with your human lives vs. private property question. Both are important, and neither should be endangered. The only people who don't care about property being destroyed are those who either a) own nothing of value and/or b) are not the owners of the property being destroyed.

He went there to defend property which should not have been under threat in the first place. Being upset and outraged is not justification for wanton destruction of property that does not belong to you.
He didn't go there to defend any property. Just stop with that nonsense.
Sorry. Didn’t realize you were the final authority on what happened. 🙄
I made my statement with no more "authority" than you did.

So what businesses were spared from damage thanks to the valiant efforts of these brave, armed patriots? What is it exactly that they prevented? They seem to have provoked more problems than if they would not have been there.
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ProudBoy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:48 pm Speaking of [potential] violence:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... er/621087/
Careful bro, pretty sure you just doxxed TDub
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twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:39 pm
JKLivin wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:30 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:00 pm

He didn't go there to defend any property. Just stop with that nonsense.
Sorry. Didn’t realize you were the final authority on what happened. 🙄
I made my statement with no more "authority" than you did.

So what businesses were spared from damage thanks to the valiant efforts of these brave, armed patriots? What is it exactly that they prevented? They seem to have provoked more problems than if they would not have been there.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7chicag ... s/6402998/

100 businesses damaged
40 destroyed
$50 million in losses

“Tony Farhan watched a Facebook Live feed of his store being looted. Later, he said, the looters lit it on fire.

"It's not just my business; half my belongings were in there," Farhan said. "The kids' clothes, luggage, a lot of stuff in storage that was either looted or burned to the ground. This is so sad. This place meant a lot to me."

They went in because the police decided to just sit back and let the rioters wear themselves out. Not an option if it’s your stuff being burned and looted. If the Governor would have deployed the National Guard at the outset, nothing would have happened.

But, hey, people are more important than stuff, right?
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You’re the Christian bro.

Who cares about loved ones when you got material possessions, right?

But that info there, more than anything, seems like an argument to defund the police. There was burning and looting and they didn’t do a damn thing. Then there’s kids playing vigilante and literally shooting the place up, and they still didn’t do a damn thing.

So why even have ‘em?
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ousdahl wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:21 pm You’re the Christian bro.

Who cares about loved ones when you got material possessions, right?

But that info there, more than anything, seems like an argument to defund the police. There was burning and looting and they didn’t do a damn thing. Then there’s kids playing vigilante and literally shooting the place up, and they still didn’t do a damn thing.

So why even have ‘em?
Another false dichotomy. The answer is to stop allowing the police to be run by people who are afraid of being accused of not being woke enough. The answer is to stop excusing barbaric behavior because of slavery in the 1800’s. The answer is to think rationally and act as if we still have a society to preserve.
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Wut?

Bro the police aren’t run by people afraid of being accused of not being woke enough. Police are run by literal Ku Klux Klansmen.

Go check out that story in the jury thread!
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ousdahl wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:08 pm
ProudBoy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:48 pm Speaking of [potential] violence:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... er/621087/
Careful bro, pretty sure you just doxxed TDub
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if some of his neighbors are part of the movement. In fact, I’d probably be a bit shocked if they weren’t.
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ProudBoy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:48 pm Speaking of [potential] violence:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... er/621087/
What a tragic story.

A small aggrieved cross section of the population wants to know why the will of the majority of voters is allowed to make the rules in a democratic process. This self righteous desire for minority rule is the flailing mantra of the Republican party these days. If you can't stop them from voting against you, take your ball and go home.
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ousdahl wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:27 pm Wut?

Bro the police aren’t run by people afraid of being accused of not being woke enough. Police are run by literal Ku Klux Klansmen.

Go check out that story in the jury thread!
More CRT talking points. Whatever.
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JKLivin wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:14 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:39 pm
JKLivin wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:30 pm

Sorry. Didn’t realize you were the final authority on what happened. 🙄
I made my statement with no more "authority" than you did.

So what businesses were spared from damage thanks to the valiant efforts of these brave, armed patriots? What is it exactly that they prevented? They seem to have provoked more problems than if they would not have been there.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7chicag ... s/6402998/

100 businesses damaged
40 destroyed
$50 million in losses

“Tony Farhan watched a Facebook Live feed of his store being looted. Later, he said, the looters lit it on fire.

"It's not just my business; half my belongings were in there," Farhan said. "The kids' clothes, luggage, a lot of stuff in storage that was either looted or burned to the ground. This is so sad. This place meant a lot to me."

They went in because the police decided to just sit back and let the rioters wear themselves out. Not an option if it’s your stuff being burned and looted. If the Governor would have deployed the National Guard at the outset, nothing would have happened.

But, hey, people are more important than stuff, right?
Again, what businesses were spared from damage thanks to the valiant efforts of these brave, armed patriots?
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japhy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:34 pm
ProudBoy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:48 pm Speaking of [potential] violence:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... er/621087/
What a tragic story.

A small aggrieved cross section of the population wants to know why the will of the majority of voters is allowed to make the rules in a democratic process. This self righteous desire for minority rule is the flailing mantra of the Republican party these days. If you can't stop them from voting against you, take their ability to vote away from them.
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JKLivin wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:55 pm
ousdahl wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:27 pm Wut?

Bro the police aren’t run by people afraid of being accused of not being woke enough. Police are run by literal Ku Klux Klansmen.

Go check out that story in the jury thread!
More CRT talking points. Whatever.
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JKLivin wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:55 pm
ousdahl wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:27 pm Wut?

Bro the police aren’t run by people afraid of being accused of not being woke enough. Police are run by literal Ku Klux Klansmen.

Go check out that story in the jury thread!
More CRT talking points. Whatever.
"Police are run by literal Ku Klux Klansmen"

LOL

Yup all of em. Every last one.
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Your guys’s cloaks are showing.

Just outta curiosity, do you sew those things yourselves? Or do you hire a seamstress?

I guess it’d be a white supremacist seamstress. A white supremaseamstress?
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:17 pm
JKLivin wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:55 pm
ousdahl wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:27 pm Wut?

Bro the police aren’t run by people afraid of being accused of not being woke enough. Police are run by literal Ku Klux Klansmen.

Go check out that story in the jury thread!
More CRT talking points. Whatever.
"Police are run by literal Ku Klux Klansmen"

LOL

Yup all of em. Every last one.
No, not every last one. But a much higher percentage than you'd believe.

https://apnews.com/article/florida-race ... 08074795b5
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What % of cops are in the KKK? I can't find it in your article you found on google.
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To accurately get that metric, Merica would have to treat white supremacy as the actual threat it is, rather than just shrugging it off and LOLing about it, like you and psych.

Think of it this way: just one undercover dood found dozens of cops who were involved.

Imagine if we were able to candidly evaluate every facet of law enforcement.

And yeah while perhaps not EVERY cop is also a klansman, there’s still far too many. And even one is too many. And that’s the ones who are actively involved, not to mention the ones who are just as biased but don’t consciously own it.

it’s also likely that a lot more cops, even the “good” cops, are at least aware of this shit and don’t do or say a thing. They prob just laugh and shrug, like you guys.

And if it’s a matter of being actually in the KKK, or not in actually the KKK but ok with it anyway, is that really any better?
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ousdahl wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:42 pm Your guys’s cloaks are showing.

Just outta curiosity, do you sew those things yourselves? Or do you hire a seamstress?

I guess it’d be a white supremacist seamstress. A white supremaseamstress?
You have officially completely lost your mind. Congrats.
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