COVID-19 - On the Ground

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I think Florida is too low on the list. I think they stopped reporting Covid deaths a while ago, or something.

Death Cult moniker is backed up by data. Kentucky is represented by Rand Paul….so there’s that
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:15 am




















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New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
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i'm gonna go out on a limb and say all those folks fall into the "i don't work and support myself. i proudly supple off the teet and play on the interwebz all day" category.
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Whoa, rad, gutter going full Qusdahl.

How long til some tweet like “cdc and ncaa shorten quarantine times for student ath-o-letes to be back in time for the under 8 timeout, as long as they blow their nose at halftime”
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Mich loves him some CDC now and given the S&P today loves, loves, loves him some Biden
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MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:55 am i'm gonna go out on a limb and say all those folks fall into the "i don't work and support myself. i proudly supple off the teet and play on the interwebz all day" category.
I don't know about all the people who's tweets I posted but I do know you couldn't be more wrong about some of them.
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This paper just came out in Nature. Only 6 of the 40some antibodies produced against the original virus are as effective against omicron. Importantly only 3 of the 29 that bind the spike protein where it attaches to our fells are still fully effective.

Sorry randy but the data shows you gotta get that booster to be protected. Their words:
Marked reductions of plasma neutralizing activity were observed against Omicron compared to the ancestral pseudovirus for convalescent and vaccinated individuals, but this loss was less pronounced after a third vaccine dose.


Once again, previous infection ISN'T enough. You need to get vaxxed and boosted.
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Data? DATA?? We don’t need no stinking DATA…….(apologies to Gold Hat)
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zsn wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:49 am Data? DATA?? We don’t need no stinking DATA…….(apologies to Gold Hat)
Don't worry. Pdub will delete it soon.
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PhDhawk wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:32 am This paper just came out in Nature. Only 6 of the 40some antibodies produced against the original virus are as effective against omicron. Importantly only 3 of the 29 that bind the spike protein where it attaches to our fells are still fully effective.

Sorry randy but the data shows you gotta get that booster to be protected. Their words:
Marked reductions of plasma neutralizing activity were observed against Omicron compared to the ancestral pseudovirus for convalescent and vaccinated individuals, but this loss was less pronounced after a third vaccine dose.


Once again, previous infection ISN'T enough. You need to get vaxxed and boosted.
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PhDhawk wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:58 am
zsn wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:49 am Data? DATA?? We don’t need no stinking DATA…….(apologies to Gold Hat)
Don't worry. Pdub will delete it soon.
What’s the data on contagious period after exposure or infection?

The radio said they found it was most contagious from like 2-5 days after symptoms (or was it exposure?), then got kinda vague like “and after 5 days it isn’t THAT contagious”

So what the science behind the 10 days suddenly now 5? Is there even science behind it, or did the CDC just give in to “the economy” or whatever, and slice that quarantine in half like it’s just another break room donut?
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PhDhawk wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:32 am Sorry randy but the data shows you gotta get that booster to be protected. Their words:

Once again, previous infection ISN'T enough. You need to get vaxxed and boosted.
by order of big pharma and their shareholders.
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PhDhawk wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:32 am This paper just came out in Nature. Only 6 of the 40some antibodies produced against the original virus are as effective against omicron. Importantly only 3 of the 29 that bind the spike protein where it attaches to our fells are still fully effective.

Sorry randy but the data shows you gotta get that booster to be protected. Their words:
Marked reductions of plasma neutralizing activity were observed against Omicron compared to the ancestral pseudovirus for convalescent and vaccinated individuals, but this loss was less pronounced after a third vaccine dose.


Once again, previous infection ISN'T enough. You need to get vaxxed and boosted.
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PhDhawk wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:32 am This paper just came out in Nature. Only 6 of the 40some antibodies produced against the original virus are as effective against omicron. Importantly only 3 of the 29 that bind the spike protein where it attaches to our fells are still fully effective.

Sorry randy but the data shows you gotta get that booster to be protected. Their words:
Marked reductions of plasma neutralizing activity were observed against Omicron compared to the ancestral pseudovirus for convalescent and vaccinated individuals, but this loss was less pronounced after a third vaccine dose.


Once again, previous infection ISN'T enough. You need to get vaxxed and boosted.
Boosted repeatedly forever?
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MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:16 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:32 am Sorry randy but the data shows you gotta get that booster to be protected. Their words:

Once again, previous infection ISN'T enough. You need to get vaxxed and boosted.
by order of big pharma and their shareholders.
You don't have any pharmaceutical companies in your hockey sticks and ammo portfolio?
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If you REALLY wanna stick it to big pharma, why not just require the sharing of vaccine patents?

Considering all the public resources used to create the vaccines, why SHOULDNT the vaccines be public too?

And wouldn’t we prevent all these Greek letter variants if we actually got vaccines to places like Africa sooner?
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defixione wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:19 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:16 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:32 am Sorry randy but the data shows you gotta get that booster to be protected. Their words:

Once again, previous infection ISN'T enough. You need to get vaxxed and boosted.
by order of big pharma and their shareholders.
You don't have any pharmaceutical companies in your hockey sticks and ammo portfolio?
so much for mich’s 401k
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:16 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:58 am
zsn wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:49 am Data? DATA?? We don’t need no stinking DATA…….(apologies to Gold Hat)
Don't worry. Pdub will delete it soon.
What’s the data on contagious period after exposure or infection?

The radio said they found it was most contagious from like 2-5 days after symptoms (or was it exposure?), then got kinda vague like “and after 5 days it isn’t THAT contagious”

So what the science behind the 10 days suddenly now 5? Is there even science behind it, or did the CDC just give in to “the economy” or whatever, and slice that quarantine in half like it’s just another break room donut?
The shorter incubation time is based largely on early data from group gatherings. And it appears the incubation time is shorter both for time until contagious and time until symptomatic. But in both cases you're thought to be most contagious two days prior to developing symptoms. (But both things happen a couple days sooner)

I believe the change in isolation time has more to do with reduced severity than with becoming less contagious more quickly.
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:20 pm If you REALLY wanna stick it to big pharma, why not just require the sharing of vaccine patents?

Considering all the public resources used to create the vaccines, why SHOULDNT the vaccines be public too?

And wouldn’t we prevent all these Greek letter variants if we actually got vaccines to places like Africa sooner?
I don't want to stick it to big pharma.

I agree, since the vaccines were publicly funded they should be shared.

And yes to your third point, assuming people take them and infrastructure is in place to properly administer them.
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