Big 12 Game Thread #1 - vs. Oklahoma

[Deleted User 75]

I think twocoach was 'flaming' during the second half where we let the Sooners get within four points.

Regardless of when, comparing dedric's hands to mitch's is pretty fucking stupid and over the top. Apparently telling him to "relax" after that is coming to the thread only to put down a bunch of KU fans.....?

Comment on the game in the game thread.

When good plays happened, I commented on them. When bad plays happened, I commented on them. If some of my comments seem too stupid for you or you do not feel comfortable with my positive comment to negative comment ratio, then take your own advice and utilize the ignore feature.

And for the record, telling someone to relax in the game thread is about as useful and welcome as telling your wife to relax in an argument. It is rarely well received.

Are you just going to keep repeating some version of these 2 paragraphs over and over?

You've said all that.

And when I told you to relax it wasn't in the midst of an argument. It was a comment. On the game. In the game thread....even though apparently I didn't comment on the game, except all my posts I can find during the game were about the game.

[PhDhawk]

He'll never stop telling other people how to post.

[pdub]

The guaranteed money from being a lotto pick is substantially different than some 2nd round contract.
He should stay and I think he will.

[PhDhawk]

Especially given that the mechanics of his jumper suggest that he could make a significant improvement in his perimeter shot...which, depending on who else is back, could mean he puts up some impressive stats. I really think he could significantly climb the draft boards as a sophomore. just my biased opinion.

[Deleted User 75]

The guaranteed money from being a lotto pick is substantially different than some 2nd round contract.
He should stay and I think he will.

I think he'll stay too.

Although I'm not in the crowd that thinks he will be a lotto pick regardless...

Although like PhD mentioned, his jumper "looks" good, so he could definitely improve it so much that it's eventually viewed as a weapon and not a weakness.

[twocoach]

Graham is a much better shooter and he is still bouncing back and forth from the NBA. Hopefully Dotson gets some NBA feedback, returns and we get another season of him after an offseason focusing on his three point shot.

[twocoach]

Especially given that the mechanics of his jumper suggest that he could make a significant improvement in his perimeter shot...which, depending on who else is back, could mean he puts up some impressive stats. I really think he could significantly climb the draft boards as a sophomore. just my biased opinion.

I agree. Selden had nothing to gain by coming back. Dotson does. He could get into that 1st Round guaranteed money and it would be well worth the time and effort.

[PhDhawk]

Graham is older than Wiggins, which is a huge part of why he wasn't drafted higher and why his team isn't more invested in him. Dotson is still a teenager.

[Deleted User 75]

Graham is older than Wiggins, which is a huge part of why he wasn't drafted higher and why his team isn't more invested in him. Dotson is still a teenager.

They may not view him as their next Kemba (and why would they), but I do think they value him as a future rotation player. The start last night shows that. And the minutes load. To me, they seem more in favor of graham than monk even though the salaries would make you think they'd push hard for Monk.

I think graham can stick around. I actually view the bouncing back and forth as a good thing. Especially having him travel with the team and sit on bench even in street clothes when inactive.

With Kemba and Parker the need for him is not there this year...but next year parker may retire and then there's a void he can fill. 20mpg type guy off the bench. Pays better than most careers.

[PhDhawk]

Graham is older than Wiggins, which is a huge part of why he wasn't drafted higher and why his team isn't more invested in him. Dotson is still a teenager.

They may not view him as their next Kemba (and why would they), but I do think they value him as a future rotation player. The start last night shows that. And the minutes load. To me, they seem more in favor of graham than monk even though the salaries would make you think they'd push hard for Monk.

I think graham can stick around. I actually view the bouncing back and forth as a good thing. Especially having him travel with the team and sit on bench even in street clothes when inactive.

With Kemba and Parker the need for him is not there this year...but next year parker may retire and then there's a void he can fill. 20mpg type guy off the bench. Pays better than most careers.

My point was that a second round pick gets treated differently by a franchise than a top 15 pick.

[Deleted User 75]

Graham is older than Wiggins, which is a huge part of why he wasn't drafted higher and why his team isn't more invested in him. Dotson is still a teenager.

They may not view him as their next Kemba (and why would they), but I do think they value him as a future rotation player. The start last night shows that. And the minutes load. To me, they seem more in favor of graham than monk even though the salaries would make you think they'd push hard for Monk.

I think graham can stick around. I actually view the bouncing back and forth as a good thing. Especially having him travel with the team and sit on bench even in street clothes when inactive.

With Kemba and Parker the need for him is not there this year...but next year parker may retire and then there's a void he can fill. 20mpg type guy off the bench. Pays better than most careers.

My point was that a second round pick gets treated differently by a franchise than a top 15 pick.

Absolutely...but only for a short time.

Monk was a lotto pick (iirc) and Charlotte is quickly losing interest in him it appears. He only played 5min last night.

I wasn't countering your point at all when it comes to Dotson, just wanted to throw some love Grahams way and show some deserved optimism about his NBA chances going forward.

[Deleted User 89]

He'll never stop telling other people how to post.

that’s rich

[Soklous]

So who has weaker hands that get the ball stripped more, Dedric Lawson or Mitch Lightfoot?

[twocoach]

So who has weaker hands that get the ball stripped more, Dedric Lawson or Mitch Lightfoot?

Manek deserved that just for the terrible hair and moustache.