Would you be on the Jury?

[japhy]

I got called into Jackson County MO for a personal injury case. The defense attorney asked me if I had any personal injury biases. I told them I had worked as an expert witness before, always on the plaintiff's side. My wife worked for a plaintiff's law firm and several friends were plaintiff's lawyers. If I had any bias it would be for the plaintiffs. He asked what I did for a living and I told him I was an engineer. He turned to the judge and said, "I have no objections to this witness" and the plaintiff's attorney agreed.

I thought I had nailed that question, but I guess not.

I voted for the defense on the verdict and convinced a couple of other jurors to do the same in our deliberations. The plaintiff had a case, their attorney did not present it. Instead they went for emotional points instead of facts, trying to hit a $$$ home run. The family would have been happy with a bloop $ingle I suspect.

Sitting on a jury is an interesting way to observe human behavior.

[CrimsonNBlue]

I got called into Jackson County MO for a personal injury case. The defense attorney asked me if I had any personal injury biases. I told them I had worked as an expert witness before, always on the plaintiff's side. My wife worked for a plaintiff's law firm and several friends were plaintiff's lawyers. If I had any bias it would be for the plaintiffs. He asked what I did for a living and I told him I was an engineer. He turned to the judge and said, "I have no objections to this witness" and the plaintiff's attorney agreed.

I thought I had nailed that question, but I guess not.

I voted for the defense on the verdict and convinced a couple of other jurors to do the same in our deliberations. The plaintiff had a case, their attorney did not present it. Instead they went for emotional points instead of facts, trying to hit a $$$ home run. The family would have been happy with a bloop $ingle I suspect.

Sitting on a jury is an interesting way to observe human behavior.

Having not been there for your voir dire, I can't really have a true feel. But, given what you posted about all of your connections on their face, I would have moved to strike for cause, and I think I'd have a good shot at getting you stricken.

But, your story is kind of why, perceived biases aside, I really want educated people that can follow the facts.

[ousdahl]

Stricken?

Struck?

Is this closer to potato potato, or pleaded pled?

[CrimsonNBlue]

IDK, dumb lawyer words.

[ousdahl]

Speaking of!

Fun fact:

In law school my nickname was “attractive nuisance”

[jhawks99]

Seems Kansas' stand your ground laws are only for the attackers. Handcuffed, prone victims cannot stand their ground so it's ok to kill em.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/us/cedri ... index.html

[Cascadia]

The prosecutor said Tuesday that while there was a "lot of opportunity" in that night for things to have gone differently, the employees involved acted in self-defense when they continued to restrain the teen because he continued to resist.

This is part of the fallout of the Rittenhouse case. Murder is legal for white people now (and more or less has been for a long time). If the victim was a white girl and the employees were black, they'd be in jail right now.

[Deleted User 863]

"Murder is legal for white people now"


LOL

Get a grip. My god, just listen to yourself. You sound so ignorant.

[ousdahl]

We need things like liability insurance for cops, need settlements to come out of their own budgets and pensions, need to do away with qualified immunity, and need a pro-life movement that cares about more than just controlling uteruses

among other issues

[pdub]

I'm all for some versions of the first three ( depending on circumstances i.e. if a police officer rescues you from a burning car but you get a cut in the process then a lawsuit like that shouldn't come out of your own budget ) but am trying to understand what the fourth has to do with police.

[ousdahl]

If the pro-life movement actually cared enough about LIVES to speak up and say, hey maybe it wasn’t necessary or appropriate for cops to kill a kid handcuffed in custody, maybe it would could should collectively move us culturally away from shrugging it off every time a handcuffed kid is killed in police custody.

But instead, the moral mandate the pro-life movement has tasked itself with, is overturning Roe v. Wade.

[pdub]

Ah.
A stretch but I see.

[Deleted User 863]

Ah.
A stretch. As usual.

[ousdahl]

How is this a stretch?

They call themselves the pro-LIFE movement you guys.

If the pro-LIFE movement isn’t gonna speak up about things like a literal homicide, then what good is it to call themselves that?

[KUTradition]

you’re assuming a certain level of logic and integrity that just doesn’t seem to exist, Ousie

[ousdahl]

you’re assuming a certain level of logic and integrity that just doesn’t seem to exist, Ousie

[pdub]

Then the pro-choice movement would then apply to all choices about ones own body.

[ousdahl]

Does it not?

I think the false equivalency you’re looking for is actually, the pro-choice movement should instead just call themselves the pro-abortion movement.

[KUTradition]

Then the pro-choice movement would then apply to all choices about ones own body.

i agree with this

but choices aren’t without consequences either

[pdub]

Generally, no, the pro-choice movement does not apply to other choices about ones body.
Just as generally, no, pro-life doesn't apply to murder.

We are arguing semantics of words.
We know what pro-life and pro-choice mean.
It does not have to be literal.