Would you be on the Jury?

[ousdahl]

Agree.

Now we're getting somewhere.

If only we had some passionate and organized movement who might take it to the ballot box, eh?

Most of us aren't single issue voters.

Apparently you haven’t spent much time around the “pro-life” types.

[CrimsonNBlue]

"Murder is legal for white people now"


LOL

Get a grip. My god, just listen to yourself. You sound so ignorant.

If we're going to lean in to a charged hot take, it has been effectively legal for most of modern history.

[Cascadia]

state’s rights lulz

Right?

We get it.
You're better than the rest of us.

Us?

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=870&p=240656&hilit=trumpers#p240656

Yes.

But for reals, how long is this temper tantrum going to last?

[pdub]

While I don't agree with the federal government making these kind of choices, I can respect/understand a person who feels that way.

The difference here is mocking/degrading an individual who has a different view.
It's why the poli-bored is a trash pile of name calling.

[Deleted User 863]

If only we had some passionate and organized movement who might take it to the ballot box, eh?

Most of us aren't single issue voters.

Apparently you haven’t spent much time around the “pro-life” types.

I have enough to know that many of them are nothing like you say they are.

[Deleted User 863]

While I don't agree with the federal government making these kind of choices, I can respect/understand a person who feels that way.

The difference here is mocking/degrading an individual who has a different view.
It's why the poli-bored is a trash pile of name calling.

You're just a bat shit crazy anti vaxxing trumper

[pdub]

Most of us aren't single issue voters.

Apparently you haven’t spent much time around the “pro-life” types.

I have enough to know that many of them are nothing like you say they are.

I the same.
My family from upstate New York are pro-life.
They are wonderful people - they just disagree on when life begins.

[CrimsonNBlue]

It's not as neatly cut as this, but there seems to be a noticeable day-to-day difference between someone that is pro-life and someone that is single issue voting on pro-life.

The latter have no issue coming up to you at a restaurant to try and hand you bat shit crazy literature.

[pdub]

Right.
If that's your sole reason to choose a candidate(s), then I agree, yer a moran.

[Deleted User 863]

Right.
If that's your sole reason to choose a candidate(s), then I agree, yer a moran.

[ousdahl]

In the context of this thread, where was the pro-life movement during the BLM protests?

[pdub]

Refer here:

viewtopic.php?p=242101#p242101

[ousdahl]

Oh, so what yer sayin, is the pro-life movement was never actually about life, so much as it is about semantics?

Fully agree.

[pdub]

It is more specifically about abortion.
There are those who are pro-life who are also against police brutality.
It's not that great a leap to take.

[Cascadia]

Your shitty ass pro-life stance isn’t any less shitty because you don’t like police violence.

[CrimsonNBlue]

I don't know why we have to pretend there isn't a big overlap between pro-lifers, anti-vaxxers, blue live matters, and people that generally voted for Trump in November 2020.

[ousdahl]

Yeah it’s not a leap.

But while they take explicit voting and judicial and legislative and other action against abortion, the police brutality thing gets little more than lip service.

(Not to mention the “pro-lifers” who might knee jerk the “but cops won’t kill you if you just comply” shit, or the “blue lives matter” or “all lives matter” gaslight, with no awareness or irony, and no understanding or appreciation of “pro-life” beyond the context of abortion. But at least they remain united against abortion?)

[KUTradition]

I don't know why we have to pretend there isn't a big overlap between pro-lifers, anti-vaxxers, blue live matters, and people that generally voted for Trump in November 2020.

reality is uncomfortable for many

[Deleted User 863]

Is it pro life to cheer and giggle whenever an unvaxxed person dies of covid?

Asking for a friend, because hypocrisy is frowned upon around here...

[pdub]

"I don't know why we have to pretend there isn't a big overlap between pro-lifers, anti-vaxxers, blue live matters, and people that generally voted for Trump in November 2020."

I don't disagree.
But sweeping statements are problematic and are, imo, reasons to be turned off from conversation/debate and political agendas ( political agendas does not have to be a 'bad word' here ).