next soccer question

[pdub]

Definitely related.

[zsn]

I think I see how the MLS has helped but not really. It’s certainly generated enough interest in the sport that it’s starting to draw more athletes showing them that professional soccer is viable. However the overall quality of play is very much below the European, UK, South American and Mexican leagues. Top players still opt to play there for more money and more visibility. A good analogy would be the comparison of Greek or other European pro basketball league to the NBA. The MLS is like the former but still develops great interest in the sport; the best players still come overseas

[Cascadia]

It's fair to argue that MLS has helped raise the popularity of soccer in the US, but it's had very little impact on the USMNT and, even less so, the current bright future of the USMNT. Almost all of our best players would still be where they are today without the existence of MLS.

[pdub]

"play is very much below...Mexican leagues"

I wouldn't say very much.
Our all stars just beat theirs.

[pdub]

Almost all of our best players would still be where they are today without the existence of MLS.

Agree to disagree.

[Cascadia]

Almost all of our best players would still be where they are today without the existence of MLS.

Agree to disagree.

You clearly don't follow the sport very closely.

[Cascadia]

"play is very much below...Mexican leagues"

I wouldn't say very much.
Our all stars just beat theirs.

lol, an all star game

I like your enthusiasm and appreciate your support, but you clearly don't follow very closely. Liga MX is substantially better than MLS

[pdub]

Almost all of our best players would still be where they are today without the existence of MLS.

Agree to disagree.

You clearly don't follow the sport very closely.

We get it. You're better than the rest of us.

[Cascadia]

Agree to disagree.

You clearly don't follow the sport very closely.

We get it. You're better than the rest of us.

Us?

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=870&p=240656&hilit=trumpers#p240656

Yes.

But for reals, how long is this temper tantrum going to last?

[Cascadia]

Solid lineup today other than Zardes. Makes you wonder if Pepi has a small injury. Hopefully Gyasi doesn't fuck it up.

[NewtonHawk11]

No Pepi and having Zardes instead stinks.

[Cascadia]

Ugh, very soft goal for Canada

[NewtonHawk11]

Zardes is so bad.

Also a really good save by their keeper.

[Cascadia]

Their keeper's pants are kind of hilarious and awesome at the same time.

Yeah, Zardes sucks.

[NewtonHawk11]

If you don’t get 3 vs Honduras, you have to consider letting go of Berhalter.

[Cascadia]

If you don’t get 3 vs Honduras, you have to consider letting go of Berhalter.

I'm a little torn on this one, but don't completely disagree.

Today isn't a complete failure, but it's pretty disappointing. Getting 3 points against Honduras would make this window a success. 6 points in 3 games is always solid

[NewtonHawk11]

Panama wins today. US 1 point in front Panama for 4th.

Fire Greggggggg

[pdub]

We need 5 points in 4 games now.
The home game v Honduras is a must win.

If you cant get the 5 points, then yes, you fire him.

[NewtonHawk11]

This is the worst scoring US team in qualifying since the 2002 team. After 10 games, we've scored 13 goals.

Previous years were in the 15-17 or 18 range.

[Cascadia]

Goal scoring has been an issue, but I do think some of that is the youth of this team. I have an entire spreadsheet built (bit of a nerd alert) on the USMNT player pool and it's absolutely insane how young this team is right now.

That said, some of the goal scoring issues are because of Gregg's tactics and he inability to move away from marginal MLS players.