We just haven’t been very athletic in quite a while. Even those really good teams, not a lot of high end athletes.
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Dang, yea we really haven’t.
Many of our other lineups, like 2-3 thru 5 are all threats to finish a lob, and tends to happen on the reg.
Now, lobs seem a little fewer and further between
Among other metrics
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Och is showing more bounce this year. Finishing impossible lobs like he was earlier in his career.
I think people need to think about stuff like that when they bitch about him not going all out on defense. This is very 2012 T-Rob situation.
I think people need to think about stuff like that when they bitch about him not going all out on defense. This is very 2012 T-Rob situation.
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Dont exclude Svi.twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:05 amEven a roster with Frank, Devonte and Josh Jackson couldn't drag Lucas to a Final Four.randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:49 amI think our lack of having a point guard that had to be defended and could shoot the past 2 seasons has really really hurt Dave's legacy here. Not saying some of that aint on him, but it doesn't help.
Imagine if he would've been in landens situation, with devonte and frank out there
Though he wasnt senior Svi yet he was still pretty good that season.
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And that Oregon team had pros on their roster. It wasn't some big time upset.
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It was an upset but Sprint Center is cursed.
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We started four future nba players ourself.BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:56 am And that Oregon team had pros on their roster. It wasn't some big time upset.
How is a 3 over a 1 not an upset?
I guess the semantics of “big time”
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If we can use 2012 TRob as a metric, is Och competing with any unibrow type player this year who’s head and shoulders above the other POY candidates?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:24 am Och is showing more bounce this year. Finishing impossible lobs like he was earlier in his career.
I think people need to think about stuff like that when they bitch about him not going all out on defense. This is very 2012 T-Rob situation.
“Qusdahl ISNT wrong.” - PDub 1/28
“I dont dislike you, even as wildly flailing and uninformed as your theories are” - TDub 2/5
“I dont dislike you, even as wildly flailing and uninformed as your theories are” - TDub 2/5
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Tshiebwe seems like PoY so far with Agbaji close behind.Qusdahl wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:08 amIf we can use 2012 TRob as a metric, is Och competing with any unibrow type player this year who’s head and shoulders above the other POY candidates?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:24 am Och is showing more bounce this year. Finishing impossible lobs like he was earlier in his career.
I think people need to think about stuff like that when they bitch about him not going all out on defense. This is very 2012 T-Rob situation.
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Pretty sure the Wisconsin dude is way out front.twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:21 amTshiebwe seems like PoY so far with Agbaji close behind.Qusdahl wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:08 amIf we can use 2012 TRob as a metric, is Och competing with any unibrow type player this year who’s head and shoulders above the other POY candidates?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:24 am Och is showing more bounce this year. Finishing impossible lobs like he was earlier in his career.
I think people need to think about stuff like that when they bitch about him not going all out on defense. This is very 2012 T-Rob situation.
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Nah, it's anyone's race still.
From yesterday.
Oscar Tshiebwe (Kentucky) +550
Kofi Cockburn (Illinois) +600
Johnny Davis (Wisconsin) +650
Ochai Agbaji (Kansas) +650
Drew Timme (Gonzaga) +1000
Paolo Banchero (Duke) +1000
https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-ba ... den-award/
Och playing well today helps out.
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if ochai puts up a texas tech type performance hes right up at the frontCrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:18 pmNah, it's anyone's race still.
From yesterday.
Oscar Tshiebwe (Kentucky) +550
Kofi Cockburn (Illinois) +600
Johnny Davis (Wisconsin) +650
Ochai Agbaji (Kansas) +650
Drew Timme (Gonzaga) +1000
Paolo Banchero (Duke) +1000
https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-ba ... den-award/
Och playing well today helps out.
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Och is giving me B Rush vibes.
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Wait which one’s tough to beat?
Cockburn?
Nah not really, unless you’re allergic to penicillin.
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Except Och is a better ball handler.
What's interesting is that as Rush's 3pt attempts per game increased his 3pt shooting % went down....but as Och's 3pt attempts per game have increased so has his 3pt shooting %. That's impressive.
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Och is a much better overall player than Rush. He doesn’t, though, have Rush’s frame. Rush could credibly guard 3s in the NBA. Not sure Och will be able to.BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 7:13 amExcept Och is a better ball handler.
What's interesting is that as Rush's 3pt attempts per game increased his 3pt shooting % went down....but as Och's 3pt attempts per game have increased so has his 3pt shooting %. That's impressive.
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Brush was never featured or used like och though. Because of how deep and talented those teams he was on. Also you are comparing a senior och to brush who left early. Och hadn't developed his handle and level of dominance until this year
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And the end of ochai's junior year, I dont think a single one of us would have tried to say he was better than rush. I remember thinking ochais handle wasn't very good. He busted his ass in the off-season and really came back an improved player ready to dominate college basketball