We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

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Overlander wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:01 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:36 pm keep ramming your $#!t down other peoples throat. we'll see how that works out in nov 22.
You mean when the QOP forcibly takes control of our Government?
exactly

cheating and disenfranchisement…the funny thing is that even if that happens, it doesn’t change the truth, no matter how much mich wants to think it does
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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KUTradition wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:07 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:01 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:36 pm keep ramming your $#!t down other peoples throat. we'll see how that works out in nov 22.
You mean when the QOP forcibly takes control of our Government?
exactly

cheating and disenfranchisement…the funny thing is that even if that happens, it doesn’t change the truth, no matter how much mich wants to think it does
2020 was the last free and fair election that we will see for quite a while.
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KUTradition wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:07 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:01 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:36 pm keep ramming your $#!t down other peoples throat. we'll see how that works out in nov 22.
You mean when the QOP forcibly takes control of our Government?
exactly

cheating and disenfranchisement…the funny thing is that even if that happens, it doesn’t change the truth, no matter how much mich wants to think it does
The sad part is that the people mich wants in power do not give a shit about mich and his ilk.
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Overlander wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:09 pm
KUTradition wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:07 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:01 pm

You mean when the QOP forcibly takes control of our Government?
exactly

cheating and disenfranchisement…the funny thing is that even if that happens, it doesn’t change the truth, no matter how much mich wants to think it does
2020 was the last free and fair election that we will see for quite a while.
Unless your side wins.
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:22 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:09 pm
KUTradition wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:07 pm
exactly

cheating and disenfranchisement…the funny thing is that even if that happens, it doesn’t change the truth, no matter how much mich wants to think it does
2020 was the last free and fair election that we will see for quite a while.
Unless your side wins.
Your schtick is tiresome.
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Sorry. But it's true.
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Illy is right.

Both sides do it!

It’ll be just like in 00 when the Dems tried to steal the election just cuz they got more votes. And the biggest difference is now the courts are even more stacked in Q’s favor!

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you realize you didn't get the moniker Qusdahl because anyone thought you were actually a Q follower right? But, because the preposterous premises you were promoting were parallel in propaganda, reminiscent of a lefty Q. How long you gonna roll with this unfunny schtick?
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Do you ever stop and think about how much propaganda we are and have already been exposed to without even realizing it?

And how, exactly, do you draw that parallel between the far right and far left propaganda? They have some similarities for sure. But ultimately so totally different on some fundamental level.

Cuz, yeah, the last thing Q’s interested in is a bunch of lefty propaganda pretending oppressed people are people too. Preposterous!

Also, nice alliteration.
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:22 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:09 pm
KUTradition wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:07 pm
exactly

cheating and disenfranchisement…the funny thing is that even if that happens, it doesn’t change the truth, no matter how much mich wants to think it does
2020 was the last free and fair election that we will see for quite a while.
Unless your side wins.
Just shut up asswipe.
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Overlander wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:39 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:22 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:09 pm

2020 was the last free and fair election that we will see for quite a while.
Unless your side wins.
Just shut up asswipe.
You have no opinion that is of value to anyone here, outside of your “best bud”, Psych
Trying way too hard. Again.

Might be time to take a look in the mirror.

Always funny to watch you go thread to thread trying to start shit.
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Qusdahl wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:38 pm Do you ever stop and think about how much propaganda we are and have already been exposed to without even realizing it?

And how, exactly, do you draw that parallel between the far right and far left propaganda? They have some similarities for sure. But ultimately so totally different on some fundamental level.

Cuz, yeah, the last thing Q’s interested in is a bunch of lefty propaganda pretending oppressed people are people too. Preposterous!

Also, nice alliteration.
The far left propoganda is much more subtle and harder to spot. More nuanced. And like many things sprinkled with a spec of truth.

Much like Trump set the stage for Jan 6 by spending months claiming mail in ballot fraud....now we have some on the left convinced fair elections don't exist if their side doesn't win. Only way possible GOP wins is by voter suppression and gerrymandering.

Gerrymandering isn't unqiue to the GOP.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yorks- ... 1644176113

https://newrepublic.com/article/165314/ ... ymandering

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... -rcna15419

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-democ ... ymandering

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/02/nyre ... ng-ny.html

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog ... ust-own-it
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:03 am
Qusdahl wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:38 pm Do you ever stop and think about how much propaganda we are and have already been exposed to without even realizing it?

And how, exactly, do you draw that parallel between the far right and far left propaganda? They have some similarities for sure. But ultimately so totally different on some fundamental level.

Cuz, yeah, the last thing Q’s interested in is a bunch of lefty propaganda pretending oppressed people are people too. Preposterous!

Also, nice alliteration.
The far left propoganda is much more subtle and harder to spot. More nuanced. And like many things sprinkled with a spec of truth.

Much like Trump set the stage for Jan 6 by spending months claiming mail in ballot fraud....now we have some on the left convinced fair elections don't exist if their side doesn't win. Only way possible GOP wins is by voter suppression and gerrymandering.

Gerrymandering isn't unqiue to the GOP.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yorks- ... 1644176113

https://newrepublic.com/article/165314/ ... ymandering

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... -rcna15419

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-democ ... ymandering

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/02/nyre ... ng-ny.html

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog ... ust-own-it
speaking of trying too hard

do you seriously not care about facts?

it’s undeniable that the gop has done it more and to a greater extent, particularly since the 2020 election

who here has said they’re the only side to do it?
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Thanks.

Those articles largely seem to point more to political tactics. “Conservatives are suddenly hopping mad that their opponents decided to play the game by the GOP’s rules.”

But bear in mind, the GOP opponent is still the democrats, which shouldn’t be confused with leftists. Cuz U.S. Dems are still further right than pretty much any other left-learning party in the the rest of the world.

And less than political tactics, let’s talk ideology. How does one equate leftist ideas like “healthcare for all, and civil rights for all, and let’s gear the economy toward sustainability more so than endless consumption” with righty ideas like “fuck anyone who isn’t a white straight Christian male, and hold economic views that end 2 inches from our own nose, even if it means cutting it off to spite our face”

On perhaps some even more general level - from climate change to racism to economic inequality, righties are more likely to only believe facts they wanna believe; lefties are more likely to believe facts even if they don’t wanna. And yet, some of you still can’t tel a difference between lobster and ousdahl. How far right of you!

Tho, that last link is hilarious propaganda. Trying to blame some crime wave on Dems defunding police, when police budgets are actually higher than ever, lol.

https://qz.com/2116614/biden-calls-for- ... ities/amp/

And trying to pin segregation and the KKK on Dems just comes across as disingenuous partisan bickering.
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yeah, that last link is something else

is there anything more politically disingenuous than trying equate either current political party with their predecessors 50, 100, or 150 years ago?

that’s like using Lincoln as evidence that the current pubs don’t have a race issue. so dumb
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Bear in mind. Leftists view crime less as the inevitable result of insufficient police budgets and punitive criminal systems, and more as the result of either mental health issues or economic plight.

What if the best way to reduce crime was not things like bigger police budgets, but things like bigger mental health support budgets and better wages?
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also, i’d like to see evidence of dem led voting bills aimed at disenfranchising voters

ya know, things like making it illegal to give water to folks waiting in line to vote, or removing ballot drop boxes, or making it harder to get a mail-in ballot
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Qusdahl wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:59 am Bear in mind. Leftists view crime less as the inevitable result of insufficient police budgets and punitive criminal systems, and more as the result of either mental health issues or economic plight.

What if the best way to reduce crime was not things like bigger police budgets, but things like bigger mental health support budgets and better wages?
you’ll get nowhere

illy is a police apologist cuz he knows a guy
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One thing that’ll really make ous ponder is, could a capitalist system of classism and inequality even exist without state-sponsored police violence to enforce it?

But not Q.

He mostly just ponders how to own the libs.
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Doesn't illy also have a black friend?
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