Who is the GOAT

[Deleted User 863]

I don't think any of it is "wrong," but I do think it goes to what jfish was saying in that, if the end of LeBron's career is dominated about which team LeBron can get he and his kid to play together, it just kind of falls in line with LeBron being subjectively not that likeable of a star.

If Tom Brady was doing that this summer, people would lose their minds.

People are losing their minds and LeBron's kid hasn't even finished high school...

The people who dislike LeBron did so long before these comments. Come on man.

Huh?

Some of you are "up in arms" that LeBron wants to play with his son and said so publicly....and we are 3 or 4 years away from that even being remotely realistic.

[Deleted User 863]

Hahaha. This is getting good.

You don't think she plays a part in all this?

My guess is she has more influence over how this plays out than LeBron does when it comes to things like forcing him to play overseas or wherever instead of college like Q idiotically suggested. My guess is her influence is as great or greater than LeBron's inside that household when it comes to parenting.

Why would they stop being good parents and people now?

[Qusdahl]

And now I wonder whether Lebron would let his kid choose the path that he feels is best for himself, even if it is 4 years in college; or whether Lebron would helicopter parent his kid to some overseas or prep or other route more than anything for the sake of Lebron’s own wishes.

Let's stop pretending like Savannah James doesn't exist. She would never let that go down. She by all accounts is a fantastic parent, as is LeBron.

Some of this stuff is ridiculous.

It’s prob moot, cuz especially at this point Bronny prob doesn’t think of himself as anything less than a top pro prospect either.

[Deleted User 863]

Grown men hoping inside for a kid to be unsuccessful.

Classy.

[Deleted User 863]

Qusdahl mad that the worker has too much influence over the billionaire employer.

Can't make this stuff up.

LeBron makes some of you guys wonky.

[Qusdahl]

Q says this is getting SO good!

[jfish26]

People are losing their minds and LeBron's kid hasn't even finished high school...

The people who dislike LeBron did so long before these comments. Come on man.

Huh?

Some of you are "up in arms" that LeBron wants to play with his son and said so publicly....and we are 3 or 4 years away from that even being remotely realistic.

But LeBron didn't say he "wants" to play with his son. He said he will.

That is a very different thing, and the saying of it is typical Bron.

He knows how much power he has - and for the fourth fucking time, I get it and good for him and I'd probably do the same thing and all that - but all I'm saying is that it's of a piece with how Bron has acted for the bulk of his career.

Narrowly, my only substantive points about the Bronny thing are: (1) it 100%, absolutely will result in Bronny being drafted higher than he would be drafted on merit alone, and (2) it's not hard to see a scenario where that's bad for Bronny's career. Fine!

My distaste for GM Bron is only tangentially related, and like I said, the way he goes about things just rubs me the wrong way as a fan. That opinion and the NBA minimum will get you Bron's services in a few years, apparently, so long as you draft Bronny.

[Deleted User 863]

This is all LeBron's fault!

[Deleted User 863]

But LeBron didn't say he "wants" to play with his son. He said he will.

He "will" only as long as a team is willing to draft Bronny and is also willing to sign LeBron.

LeBron will probably still be an NBA caliber player in 5 or 6 years unless he has some serious injuries. So if a team pairs them up then that's awesome. And if that team sucks because of it, and they actually care about winning, then that's on them.

It didn't bother me that the Morris twins openly said they wanted to play together and structured their contracts to make it more appealing on the Suns.

[jfish26]

But LeBron didn't say he "wants" to play with his son. He said he will.

He "will" only as long as a team is willing to draft Bronny and is also willing to sign LeBron.

LeBron will probably still be an NBA caliber player in 5 or 6 years unless he has some serious injuries. So if a team pairs them up then that's awesome. And if that team sucks because of it, and they actually care about winning, then that's on them.

It didn't bother me that the Morris twins openly said they wanted to play together and structured their contracts to make it more appealing on the Suns.

My God.

Nowhere have I said that it bothers me that Bron wants to play with Bronny. But call a spade a spade: it does manipulate Bronny's draft stock. It simply does.

And that is, once again, fine!

[jfish26]

Hahaha. This is getting good.

You don't think she plays a part in all this?

My guess is she has more influence over how this plays out than LeBron does when it comes to things like forcing him to play overseas or wherever instead of college like Q idiotically suggested. My guess is her influence is as great or greater than LeBron's inside that household when it comes to parenting.

Why would they stop being good parents and people now?

I've been alive long enough to not count on having any idea whether famous people are or are not good parents and/or people.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

How come Kobe didn't?

How come Durant or Embiid don't?

Sounds like some fan boy shit to me.

It's a stupid argument. Jordan COULD have averaged 40. Just as Kobe COULD have averaged 40. Would all depend on how many shots a game they took - and of course how many they made.

[KUTradition]

jfc…what happened in thread?

step away for a few hours and all hell broke loose

[Deleted User 863]

Hahaha. This is getting good.

You don't think she plays a part in all this?

My guess is she has more influence over how this plays out than LeBron does when it comes to things like forcing him to play overseas or wherever instead of college like Q idiotically suggested. My guess is her influence is as great or greater than LeBron's inside that household when it comes to parenting.

Why would they stop being good parents and people now?

I've been alive long enough to not count on having any idea whether famous people are or are not good parents and/or people.

I think it's pretty well documented, and pretty obvious to anyone paying attention, that Savannah James is a fantastic mother. If you want to question her parenting ability, and motivations, because of petty grievances about LeBron James basketball career choices then go right ahead....

Does it seem that far fetched that a married black couple could be fantastic parents even though the husband is a famous basketball player? That maybe LeBron is a loving father who wants what is truly best for his son?

[Deleted User 863]

But LeBron didn't say he "wants" to play with his son. He said he will.

He "will" only as long as a team is willing to draft Bronny and is also willing to sign LeBron.

LeBron will probably still be an NBA caliber player in 5 or 6 years unless he has some serious injuries. So if a team pairs them up then that's awesome. And if that team sucks because of it, and they actually care about winning, then that's on them.

It didn't bother me that the Morris twins openly said they wanted to play together and structured their contracts to make it more appealing on the Suns.

My God.

Nowhere have I said that it bothers me that Bron wants to play with Bronny. But call a spade a spade: it does manipulate Bronny's draft stock. It simply does.

And that is, once again, fine!

And nowhere have I said it doesn't help his draft stock.

[Overlander]

jfc…what happened in thread?

step away for a few hours and all hell broke loose

Every thread eventually gets Illy’d

[jfish26]

You don't think she plays a part in all this?

My guess is she has more influence over how this plays out than LeBron does when it comes to things like forcing him to play overseas or wherever instead of college like Q idiotically suggested. My guess is her influence is as great or greater than LeBron's inside that household when it comes to parenting.

Why would they stop being good parents and people now?

I've been alive long enough to not count on having any idea whether famous people are or are not good parents and/or people.

I think it's pretty well documented, and pretty obvious to anyone paying attention, that Savannah James is a fantastic mother. If you want to question her parenting ability, and motivations, because of petty grievances about LeBron James basketball career choices then go right ahead....

Does it seem that far fetched that a married black couple could be fantastic parents even though the husband is a famous basketball player? That maybe LeBron is a loving father who wants what is truly best for his son?

He put a "1st round tag" on him? His kid is a top 40 recruit. Does LeBron control the recruiting rankings also?

Some of you are totally incapable of being unbiased when it comes to LeBron.

All he said was his last year will be played wherever his son plays. Assuming his son plays basketball, and assuming whichever team drafts his son agrees to sign LeBron. He can't force anyone to do anything they don't want to do.

You're the one pretending to know his and his wife's character as people and parents, here on this KU message board. But sure.

[CrimsonNBlue]

Might have to hit a brewery patio in this 70 degree weather and laugh the afternoon away reading illy's posts in this thread.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

You don't think she plays a part in all this?

My guess is she has more influence over how this plays out than LeBron does when it comes to things like forcing him to play overseas or wherever instead of college like Q idiotically suggested. My guess is her influence is as great or greater than LeBron's inside that household when it comes to parenting.

Why would they stop being good parents and people now?

I've been alive long enough to not count on having any idea whether famous people are or are not good parents and/or people.

I think it's pretty well documented, and pretty obvious to anyone paying attention, that Savannah James is a fantastic mother. If you want to question her parenting ability, and motivations, because of petty grievances about LeBron James basketball career choices then go right ahead....

Does it seem that far fetched that a married black couple could be fantastic parents even though the husband is a famous basketball player? That maybe LeBron is a loving father who wants what is truly best for his son?

I swear on my mother's life that I didn't recall LeBron's wife's name is Savannah - until I read your post.
Sorry for not "paying attention" to her and her parenting skills.

[Deleted User 863]

I've been alive long enough to not count on having any idea whether famous people are or are not good parents and/or people.

I think it's pretty well documented, and pretty obvious to anyone paying attention, that Savannah James is a fantastic mother. If you want to question her parenting ability, and motivations, because of petty grievances about LeBron James basketball career choices then go right ahead....

Does it seem that far fetched that a married black couple could be fantastic parents even though the husband is a famous basketball player? That maybe LeBron is a loving father who wants what is truly best for his son?

He put a "1st round tag" on him? His kid is a top 40 recruit. Does LeBron control the recruiting rankings also?

Some of you are totally incapable of being unbiased when it comes to LeBron.

All he said was his last year will be played wherever his son plays. Assuming his son plays basketball, and assuming whichever team drafts his son agrees to sign LeBron. He can't force anyone to do anything they don't want to do.

You're the one pretending to know his and his wife's character as people and parents, here on this KU message board. But sure.

First of all, I am not all that big of a LeBron fan myself...I am just completely nauseated by the LeBron haters and the ridiculous things they say.

LeBron and Savannah have been in the public spotlight for damn near 2 decades. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to discover they are good parents. It's well documented.