Let’s have a war!

[KUTradition]

i am more interested in what the administration we elected is going to do. than the one we didn't.

honest question: what do you think they should do?

[Cascadia]

i am more interested in what the administration we elected is going to do. than the one we didn't.

honest question: what do you think they should do?

Going to get crickets on this one.

[KUTradition]

i am more interested in what the administration we elected is going to do. than the one we didn't.

honest question: what do you think they should do?

Going to get crickets on this one.

i fully expect that

but, i’m also willing to give him a chance to offer up something of substance…rather than the same tired schtick that he usually posts

[twocoach]

This is good news, right? I mean, evidence that Brandon's doing a heckuva job?

https://www.studyfinds.org/living-paycheck-to-paycheck/

"In these tough financial times, a new study finds it’s getting harder and harder for people to save any of their money. In fact, seven in 10 Americans say they’re living paycheck to paycheck."

So we're improving from the early days of Trump. Good to hear.

Aug 2017:

"Seventy-eight percent of full-time workers said they live paycheck to paycheck, up from 75 percent last year, according to a recent report from CareerBuilder."

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/24/most-am ... check.html

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

I don't need to tell myself anything other than that you grabbed some random fact and tried to make something of it without providing any context to whether or not that fact was abnormal. We have known for a long time that too many Americans live paycheck to paycheck and do not save enough money. It was a problem before Biden, before Trump, before Obama, etc...

But you chose to make it a thing now.

[twocoach]

i am more interested in what the administration we elected is going to do. than the one we didn't.

honest question: what do you think they should do?

I doubt any of us here should be offering any solutions. We are left to watch in horror and cross our fingers that the current administration can maneuver through this mess.

[jfish26]

i am more interested in what the administration we elected is going to do. than the one we didn't.

honest question: what do you think they should do?

It’s incredibly complicated. I’d imagine the majority of NATO nations would prefer we offer only material/logistical/technological support, as (if NATO nations do take military action) the fact of our involvement would ratchet the risk of nuclear war up substantially.

[KUTradition]

i am more interested in what the administration we elected is going to do. than the one we didn't.

honest question: what do you think they should do?

I doubt any of us here should be offering any solutions. We are left to watch in horror and cross our fingers that the current administration can maneuver through this mess.

i pretty much agree

i posted earlier that the opportunity for the developed world to do something about putin was lost long ago

[KUTradition]

i am more interested in what the administration we elected is going to do. than the one we didn't.

honest question: what do you think they should do?

It’s incredibly complicated. I’d imagine the majority of NATO nations would prefer we offer only material/logistical/technological support, as (if NATO nations do take military action) the fact of our involvement would ratchet the risk of nuclear war up substantially.

based on what i’m hearing, that seems to be exactly what is happening (along with ratcheted up sanctions)

[NewtonHawk11]

Here's my uneducated, centrist thoughts.

This started a while back, Ukraine knew it was going to happen. So did the US. That's why the US Congress sent military aid to Ukraine, but then Trump withheld it because of Biden's son. Eventually, Ukraine got it, but still, that's how far back this goes. Actually goes back further to Putin and GW Bush talking about this exact thing. This isn't a new thing.

US should have done harder economic sanctions earlier. But at the same time, you can't do much because Russia was still in their countries and not fully committed to attacking Ukraine even though the positioning of the forces could show that.

US can't respond forcefully. If they do, a World War will begin. You have to cut Russia off financially. Putin answers to like 50 people and those people hold so much of the assets of Russia and all that. If you dig into their pocketbooks, they'll let Putin know to back off. I think that's the only option that you can possibly do.

It was really quite sickening to hear the continuous praise of Putin by Americans over the last week or so as this has been building. I remember watching a video on Twitter, I believe, of Putin talking about some policy thing and many comments were something along the lines of, "This guy is a great leader. I wish he was leading the US right now. We have a great resource to bounce ideas off of in Putin." Like no you don't. The man doesn't give two shits about anything else but his 50 closest friends that control everything.

[jfish26]

honest question: what do you think they should do?

It’s incredibly complicated. I’d imagine the majority of NATO nations would prefer we offer only material/logistical/technological support, as (if NATO nations do take military action) the fact of our involvement would ratchet the risk of nuclear war up substantially.

based on what i’m hearing, that seems to be exactly what is happening (along with ratcheted up sanctions)

I don’t think Russia can sustain this. If there is to be military intervention, I think it needs to be before Putin is able to install a puppet government. It will be over (in Putin’s favor) at that point.

[twocoach]

honest question: what do you think they should do?

I doubt any of us here should be offering any solutions. We are left to watch in horror and cross our fingers that the current administration can maneuver through this mess.

i pretty much agree

i posted earlier that the opportunity for the developed world to do something about putin was lost long ago

He is an evil man leading a country that praises and rewards evil. I hope that a solution of some sort is reached before thousands of innocent people are killed.

It sickens me to see Americans so brainwashed against Dems that they are praising Putin and his actions as a leader.

[KUTradition]

i think this predates anything in Ukraine

putin longs for the old soviet union. ukraine is just another test (like georgia was) to see how much the world will let him get away with

[jfish26]

Here's my uneducated, centrist thoughts.

This started a while back, Ukraine knew it was going to happen. So did the US. That's why the US Congress sent military aid to Ukraine, but then Trump withheld it because of Biden's son. Eventually, Ukraine got it, but still, that's how far back this goes. Actually goes back further to Putin and GW Bush talking about this exact thing. This isn't a new thing.

US should have done harder economic sanctions earlier. But at the same time, you can't do much because Russia was still in their countries and not fully committed to attacking Ukraine even though the positioning of the forces could show that.

US can't respond forcefully. If they do, a World War will begin. You have to cut Russia off financially. Putin answers to like 50 people and those people hold so much of the assets of Russia and all that. If you dig into their pocketbooks, they'll let Putin know to back off. I think that's the only option that you can possibly do.

It was really quite sickening to hear the continuous praise of Putin by Americans over the last week or so as this has been building. I remember watching a video on Twitter, I believe, of Putin talking about some policy thing and many comments were something along the lines of, "This guy is a great leader. I wish he was leading the US right now. We have a great resource to bounce ideas off of in Putin." Like no you don't. The man doesn't give two shits about anything else but his 50 closest friends that control everything.

This is of course item 673 out of 712 in terms of priority, but this is a message board so: my god, will the Dems feast on Trump’s comments and video.

[jfish26]

i think this predates anything in Ukraine

putin longs for the old soviet union. ukraine is just another test (like georgia was) to see how much the world will let him get away with

I am not the right person to ask, but people who know these things seem to say it’s more like imperialist Russia than the Soviet Union.

[KUTradition]

Here's my uneducated, centrist thoughts.

This started a while back, Ukraine knew it was going to happen. So did the US. That's why the US Congress sent military aid to Ukraine, but then Trump withheld it because of Biden's son. Eventually, Ukraine got it, but still, that's how far back this goes. Actually goes back further to Putin and GW Bush talking about this exact thing. This isn't a new thing.

US should have done harder economic sanctions earlier. But at the same time, you can't do much because Russia was still in their countries and not fully committed to attacking Ukraine even though the positioning of the forces could show that.

US can't respond forcefully. If they do, a World War will begin. You have to cut Russia off financially. Putin answers to like 50 people and those people hold so much of the assets of Russia and all that. If you dig into their pocketbooks, they'll let Putin know to back off. I think that's the only option that you can possibly do.

It was really quite sickening to hear the continuous praise of Putin by Americans over the last week or so as this has been building. I remember watching a video on Twitter, I believe, of Putin talking about some policy thing and many comments were something along the lines of, "This guy is a great leader. I wish he was leading the US right now. We have a great resource to bounce ideas off of in Putin." Like no you don't. The man doesn't give two shits about anything else but his 50 closest friends that control everything.

This is of course item 673 out of 712 in terms of priority, but this is a message board so: my god, will the Dems feast on Trump’s comments and video.

it’ll only matter to other dems though (and maybe some independents)

recall:

[JKLivin]

So we're improving from the early days of Trump. Good to hear.

Aug 2017:

"Seventy-eight percent of full-time workers said they live paycheck to paycheck, up from 75 percent last year, according to a recent report from CareerBuilder."

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/24/most-am ... check.html

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

Mericans have been paycheck to paycheck for decades. It’s unique not to any one presidential administration, but to the system itself.

But Q agrees he’s less interested in actually addressing the root causes of poverty and inequality, and more interested in scapegoating the libs.

It’s not like commie socialists have ever done anything for the working class.

Here’s thought: If Q were to invest even a fraction of the time and effort he puts into what he thinks is insightful ironic political commentary into his actual job, he might not have to complain about his crappy job and poor prospects for advancement.

[twocoach]

Here's my uneducated, centrist thoughts.

This started a while back, Ukraine knew it was going to happen. So did the US. That's why the US Congress sent military aid to Ukraine, but then Trump withheld it because of Biden's son. Eventually, Ukraine got it, but still, that's how far back this goes. Actually goes back further to Putin and GW Bush talking about this exact thing. This isn't a new thing.

US should have done harder economic sanctions earlier. But at the same time, you can't do much because Russia was still in their countries and not fully committed to attacking Ukraine even though the positioning of the forces could show that.

US can't respond forcefully. If they do, a World War will begin. You have to cut Russia off financially. Putin answers to like 50 people and those people hold so much of the assets of Russia and all that. If you dig into their pocketbooks, they'll let Putin know to back off. I think that's the only option that you can possibly do.

It was really quite sickening to hear the continuous praise of Putin by Americans over the last week or so as this has been building. I remember watching a video on Twitter, I believe, of Putin talking about some policy thing and many comments were something along the lines of, "This guy is a great leader. I wish he was leading the US right now. We have a great resource to bounce ideas off of in Putin." Like no you don't. The man doesn't give two shits about anything else but his 50 closest friends that control everything.

This is of course item 673 out of 712 in terms of priority, but this is a message board so: my god, will the Dems feast on Trump’s comments and video.

it’ll only matter to other dems though (and maybe some independents)

recall:

While complaining that Dems are turning the US into a socialist state. I swear, these morons would probably shoot each other if Trump told them it would help.

[KUTradition]

i think this predates anything in Ukraine

putin longs for the old soviet union. ukraine is just another test (like georgia was) to see how much the world will let him get away with

I am not the right person to ask, but people who know these things seem to say it’s more like imperialist Russia than the Soviet Union.

that may be true as well. i’ve just heard a number of people that have historical ties to russia say that putin thinks that the breakup of the soviet union was the biggest geopolitical disaster ever

[twocoach]

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

Mericans have been paycheck to paycheck for decades. It’s unique not to any one presidential administration, but to the system itself.

But Q agrees he’s less interested in actually addressing the root causes of poverty and inequality, and more interested in scapegoating the libs.

It’s not like commie socialists have ever done anything for the working class.

Here’s thought: If Q were to invest even a fraction of the time and effort he puts into what he thinks is insightful ironic political commentary into his actual job, he might not have to complain about his crappy job and poor prospects for advancement.

We would all be better off focusing more on our work than on our message board discussions.

[NewtonHawk11]

honest question: what do you think they should do?

It’s incredibly complicated. I’d imagine the majority of NATO nations would prefer we offer only material/logistical/technological support, as (if NATO nations do take military action) the fact of our involvement would ratchet the risk of nuclear war up substantially.

based on what i’m hearing, that seems to be exactly what is happening (along with ratcheted up sanctions)

I think NATO is going to cut Russia off completely. Russia will rely on what they have and China. That's it. There's going to be short term struggles that Americans will have to deal with like oil shortages, product shortages, shipping delays and the like. But I don't think the US can and should do much more than support and economic sanctions.