We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

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Gutter wrote: Fri Nov 8th 2:16pm
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
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The newest entry in the crowded "WHAT A GODDAMNED COWARD" file.

Barr calls prospect of Trump running for president again ‘dismaying,’ says GOP should ‘look forward’ to others

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... rump-2024/
Former attorney general William P. Barr says in a new book that the prospect of Donald Trump running for president again is “dismaying” and urges the Republican Party to “look forward” to other candidates, concluding after a searing, behind-the-scenes account of his time in the president’s Cabinet that Trump is not the right man to lead the country.

In the book, “One Damn Thing After Another,” Barr takes shot after shot at Trump, especially over his leadership during the coronavirus pandemic and his false claims that the election was stolen from him. Barr, who had a famous falling-out with Trump late in his presidency, writes that Trump’s “constant bellicosity diminishes him and the office,” and that in the final months of the administration, he came to realize that “Trump cared only about one thing: himself. Country and principle took second place.”

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Barr writes that he and White House lawyers had regular Monday lunches, where they would “inventory the legally problematic ideas floating around the administration.” A “fair share” of those — such as using an executive order to end citizenship for children born in the United States to parents who were here illegally — came from Trump himself, Barr writes.

He writes that the lawyers “operated like a tag team, so that neither of us would provoke too much of the President’s ire at one time.”

“We referred to this as choosing who would ‘eat the grenade,’” Barr writes.
You don't get to claim any moral or ethical high ground on any of this unless you resigned.
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"Trump cared only about one thing: himself. Country and principle took second place."

Seems Barr and Trump had at least one thing in common.
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jhawks99 wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:48 pm "Trump cared only about one thing: himself. Country and principle took second place."

Seems Barr and Trump had at least one thing in common.
I actually think Barr's real principles were in the driver's seat for him; Barr viewed Trump as an empty vessel, a useful idiot, someone through whom Barr's ultimate goals could be achieved.

This is one thing that Barr and Putin have in common.
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I wonder why more of these folks don’t speak up sooner. Did you really have to wait til you’re cashing in on a book deal about it?

I also wonder whether these former trump allies who now want us to “move on” from the guy, also have the most to loose from continuing to investigate.
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And not to take away from the Barr hilarity, but pretty sure this goes here too

(And to clarify, they clapped not cuz he said he was accused of racial profiling, but cuz he said “maybe I DID racial profile…”

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Qusdahl wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:18 pm I wonder why more of these folks don’t speak up sooner. Did you really have to wait til you’re cashing in on a book deal about it?

I also wonder whether these former trump allies who now want us to “move on” from the guy, also have the most to loose from continuing to investigate.
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Yes?

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Partisanship largely explains the gap between agreement with Biden’s actions and approval of his leadership. Nearly 9 in 10 Trump voters (89 percent) say they disapprove of how Biden is handling the Russia-Ukraine situation. More than two-thirds (67 percent) say his response has not been tough enough. About the same number (68 percent) agree with Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz that “Europe is on the verge of war because of the weakness, the fecklessness of Joe Biden.” And on the question of who is a “stronger leader,” Republicans and independents who lean Republican continue to choose Putin (66 percent) over Biden (4 percent).

Yet even now, Republicans remain less likely than Democrats to support strong measures in response to Putin’s actions, such as implementing “severe economic sanctions to counter the invasion” (62 percent of Democrats vs. 49 percent of Republicans); sending “arms to Ukraine to use in its own defense” (46 percent vs. 35 percent); sending “troops to the region to bolster defenses, but not Ukraine” (31 percent vs. 19 percent); or “sending troops to the region to bolster defenses, including to Ukraine” (24 percent vs. 17 percent).

This contradiction is unlikely to resolve itself anytime soon. Consider the fact that even among the Republicans and Republican leaners who choose Putin as a stronger leader than Biden, 76 percent rate Putin unfavorably, 69 percent disapprove of the job he is doing as president of Russia and 75 percent consider his invasion unjustified. It’s not that Republicans like Putin. They’ve just made up their minds about Biden.


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Lauren Witzke, the Delaware GOP's candidate for Senate in 2020, has nothing but praise for Putin and "his Christian nationalist nation": "I identify more with Putin's Christian values than I do with Joe Biden."

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is farming the interwebz for anything negatively related to the republican party your way of extending the olive branch across the isle.

you are no better than those you like to trash on.
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You do understand it doesn't take hours of work and a fucking plow to find this shit, don't you? It's literally everywhere because the 'republican' party is an absolute shit-show. When Mitt fucking Romney is your cow bell....

Edited: I also wanted to add that calling out the republican party for the shit show that it currently is doesn't mean you aren't a republican anymore. No different that calling out the Biden Administration for the failure when exiting Afghanistan. It was a failure (we can debate why and how, but at the end of the day, it falls on them) - and me calling it that doesn't mean all of the sudden I hate the administration. It just means I'm mature enough to hold them accountable.

I expect better, as should you.
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MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:54 am is farming the interwebz for anything negatively related to the republican party your way of extending the olive branch across the isle.

you are no better than those you like to trash on.
Thanks for pointing out that the Republicans are on an isle. An isle of bigotry, grift and fascism. There’s no need to farm the fertile field
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you're the bigger person. so says you.
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kubowler99 wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:59 am You do understand it doesn't take hours of work and a fucking plow to find this shit, don't you? It's literally everywhere because the 'republican' party is an absolute shit-show. When Mitt fucking Romney is your cow bell....

Edited: I also wanted to add that calling out the republican party for the shit show that it currently is doesn't mean you aren't a republican anymore. No different that calling out the Biden Administration for the failure when exiting Afghanistan. It was a failure (we can debate why and how, but at the end of the day, it falls on them) - and me calling it that doesn't mean all of the sudden I hate the administration. It just means I'm mature enough to hold them accountable.

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MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:09 pm you're the bigger person. so says you.
How many votes does zsn get to cast in congress?
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i wonder if i could find some negative democrat stuff on the interwebz twitters and tweets and articles and the sort if i looked for it. probably not.
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Given your posting history, I'm amazed you can find your way to this bored.
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