ehh, I guess I just see it different. I think the only correct play there (not to say other things wouldn't be possible or work) is to hold the ball, take the foul. Hit the FTs and go up 2 possessions. Anything else is unnecessary risk given the circumstance.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:53 pmI don't think the pass is that tough if EJ did what he was supposed to do and what Tyshawn thought he was going to do, which is stay out towards the perimeter to dribble the clock out.TDub wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:51 pmthat still lends itself to blaming Tyshawn moreso than EJCrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:49 pm
The safest possible plays in order:
1. Take the incoming foul.
2. Run the clock out.
3. Try and get an exclamation point dunk.
Tyshawn arguably should have done #1 but tried to do #2.
Elijah wanted #3.
The thing about #2, though, it means the steal wins you the game.
thats a tough pass to thread regardless of circumstance. Take the foul.
Maybe up Tyshawn's blame for not predicting that Elijah would do something boneheaded.
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Just Ledoux it
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Correct.
( or dribble to the corner and then take the foul )
( or dribble to the corner and then take the foul )
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FT attempted woulda sealed it too though. Go up 2 possessions.
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Which is why Ty gets some blame.TDub wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:01 pmehh, I guess I just see it different. I think the only correct play there (not to say other things wouldn't be possible or work) is to hold the ball, take the foul. Hit the FTs and go up 2 possessions. Anything else is unnecessary risk given the circumstance.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:53 pmI don't think the pass is that tough if EJ did what he was supposed to do and what Tyshawn thought he was going to do, which is stay out towards the perimeter to dribble the clock out.
Maybe up Tyshawn's blame for not predicting that Elijah would do something boneheaded.
I think running clock out is pretty safe and smart. If Elijah doesn't take the riskiest option, the horn sounds.
Granted, if Ty also takes the riskiest option, we would have gotten the dunk. And knowing both those guys and that team, it's a little surprising they both didn't go for the dunk.
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There's six seconds left.
You're in the double bonus.
Ty gets most of the blame.
You're in the double bonus.
Ty gets most of the blame.
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I remember watching that and saying "Wow, Tyshawn just summed up his career perfectly". Do something amazing, and do something really dumb.
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Does discussion of "the worst shot you can take in basketball at that time" belong here?
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Talking about Shady? Was wondering if that would be brought up.
I think he catches too much flak for that. Just out there playing and got us 2 quick points that were much needed.
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It's only a bad shot if it misses. Shots that go in are good shots.
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A very MICH-y response.BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:32 pm It's only a bad shot if it misses. Shots that go in are good shots.
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Particularly when you're talking about a guy who took a very limited number of outside shots...I'd MUCH rather he shoot a 19-footer in rhythm (which he did) than try to take a dribble-stepback 3 (which is what Raftery said he should have done).CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:31 pmTalking about Shady? Was wondering if that would be brought up.
I think he catches too much flak for that. Just out there playing and got us 2 quick points that were much needed.
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And EJ hit a very bad shot to the balls and look where that got us.jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:34 pmA very MICH-y response.BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:32 pm It's only a bad shot if it misses. Shots that go in are good shots.
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Self would have him running stairs for the end of time with this comment.jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:34 pmA very MICH-y response.BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:32 pm It's only a bad shot if it misses. Shots that go in are good shots.
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Absolutely. Stepback is so hard and no reason to think we'd get a good look from 3 by swinging the ball and taking more time off the clock.jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:36 pmParticularly when you're talking about a guy who took a very limited number of outside shots...I'd MUCH rather he shoot a 19-footer in rhythm (which he did) than try to take a dribble-stepback 3 (which is what Raftery said he should have done).CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:31 pmTalking about Shady? Was wondering if that would be brought up.
I think he catches too much flak for that. Just out there playing and got us 2 quick points that were much needed.
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jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:34 pmA very MICH-y response.BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:32 pm It's only a bad shot if it misses. Shots that go in are good shots.
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How about the screen and release to get DMac matched up with Manek?
If Bacot is on him, that offensive rebound would have been a tougher task - but Bacot can't initially help too much because Jalen was doing the ol' attack the basket and clean up this shit Wilson.
If Bacot is on him, that offensive rebound would have been a tougher task - but Bacot can't initially help too much because Jalen was doing the ol' attack the basket and clean up this shit Wilson.
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speaking of…Bacot announced he’s staying for another year
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?