We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

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From HIS website.
“He is a fervent Christian”.
Let’s review… Taylor-Greene, Boebert, Cawthorn, (and others) all pride themselves on being Christian and yet they are whacked out massively egotistical assholes and are happily snide about it.
Forgive me, seems to be the opposite of what being a good Christian is about but maybe I’m wrong about that and I have been fooled all these years. I just can’t comprehend how and why the Pubs want these pieces of shit to be the “faces” and future of their party - and how and why there are a lot of people who are thrilled about it. GBA baby!
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to be fair, i don’t think i’ve heard any of them claim to actually be GOOD christians
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Gutter wrote: Fri Nov 8th 2:16pm
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
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KUTradition wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 3:37 pm
Mjl wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 3:11 pm
KUTradition wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 2:45 pm it’s amazing to me how dismissive some are about the behavior of elected representatives

‘murica
I mean, I think this is several degrees less reprehensible than him trying to convince people that the election was stolen.
sure

but to say it isn’t newsworthy or worth talking about?
He was messing around humping his friend (cousin?) and another "friend" secretly recorded him.

It's about as unnewsworthy as it gets.

And yet the tweet said having sex with his cousin & "moaning".

Stupid.

What is really sad is that we keep electing these types of idiots. And that has nothing to do with whatever weird sexual shit they want to do privately. That's the least of my concerns about these whack jobs.
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you do you, stalker
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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I believe it was St Ronnie of Raygun that said, "If you're explaining, you're loosing".
Defense. Rebounds.
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so what's this angle with the whole Warrior Poet Society?

apparently ol' Maddy went on some right wing Christian podcast and accused fellow GOP lawmakers of cocaine orgies - which coincidentally came just before all these bombshell "leaks" making him look bad.

(this was written last week, before the cousin humping news)

https://www.salon.com/2022/04/26/cawtho ... n_partner/

Why Madison Cawthorn triggers Republicans
...the reason that Republicans are apparently pulling out all the stops to destroy Cawthorn has nothing to do with his flirtations with Nazism, his regular run-ins with the law or his unsubtle incitement language. Nah, it's because he went on a podcast run by something called the "Warrior Poet Society" and declared that Republican congressmen in their 60s and 70s invite him to orgies and do cocaine in front of him.
...

Republicans are plenty media-savvy, especially around dirt-flinging, so there's little doubt that they understand the dangers of the Streisand effect. This anti-Cawthorn campaign suggests that they are willing to make a trade-off, however: Keep the story alive in the mainstream media in order to destroy Cawthorn's reputation in right-wing media. In other words, as silly as all this is, there's actually a substantive takeaway: This story shows just how much more Republicans depend on an elaborate and often subterranean conservative media system than they do on mainstream media. They're way more worried about cocaine-and-orgies talk on a Christian podcast — one that few people in the legacy media had ever heard of until last week — than what's printed in the New York Times.

The GOP has been incredibly successful at convincing their voters to reject all forms of reality-based information in favor of a contained bubble of right-wing disinformation. Worse, that bubble isn't even primarily composed of media outlets that ordinary news consumers have at least heard of, like Fox News. Conservative media consumers are embedded in a seemingly infinite swirl of smaller and often independent outlets that fly under the radar of most people who aren't inside the bubble. Until this scandal, the "Warrior Poet Society" was totally unknown to outsiders. But outlets like that are the primary media diet of many people on the right: That show has more than a million YouTube subscribers! And on the rare occasion when right-wingers do interact with mainstream media sources, they've been inoculated in advance by being told, over and over again, that it's all "fake news."
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I think Maddy could have survived the cocaine/orgy scandal but the GOP hates the gays, so he’s toast. Why do you think Graham has spent his whole life in the closet?

Rapist, fine, misogynist, fine, racist, yes please, but gay, hell no. Not in the GOP.
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well, as a whole, hasn't Graham done a good job of marching in lock step? (just imagine the stories that might come about him if he didn't)

that article suggests all the gay bombshell stories didn't leak until Maddy said the cocaine-and-orgies part out loud. He's throwing his fellow party members under the bus.

and it wasn't even that Mad threw his fellow party members under the bus in itself. He could have said cocaine and orgies to the mainstream media, since so few republicans get their news there either way, and even if they do, it can be so easily dismissed as Fake News.

but the fact he said it on the rightwing media of choice - some fringe Youtube podcast - then the rest of the pubs gotta cover their own asses about it now.

cuz the LAST thing the GOP wants, is their own constituents suddenly taking up an interest in reality.
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well thank goodness we now have the Disinformation governance board so the government can keep us all grounded in reality......dont see any problems with that at all
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war is peace
freedom is slavery
cocaine orgies is christian family values
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ousdahl wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 11:03 am war is peace
here we go again…lol

seriously though, my boss shared this with me the other day and it made me think about you and the war thread:

https://nautil.us/i-have-to-admit-i-hav ... ngs-16884/
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KUTradition wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 11:09 am
ousdahl wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 11:03 am war is peace
here we go again…lol

seriously though, my boss shared this with me the other day and it made me think about you and the war thread:

https://nautil.us/i-have-to-admit-i-hav ... ngs-16884/
“I Have to Admit, I Have a Very Low Opinion of Human Beings”

Yeah, same
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right?
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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I was alluding to that refrain in that dystopian novel from 38 years ago.

regarding the war thread, I still feel rotten about it. I'm bummed how divisive it became. I'd rather just get along.

regarding that article, I'm not quite sure how to respond...other than saying something like, ants seem a lot cooler than humans.

(wait, just went to post and then saw your guys's reponses, lol)
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ousdahl wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 11:40 am
regarding the war thread, I still feel rotten about it. I'm bummed how divisive it became. I'd rather just get along.
I don't think it was divisive at all really. I think we mostly all agreed you were wrong.

I do think most of us agree with you that we wish war wasn't a thing humans engaged in. And that all humans were nice peaceful animals. Maybe someday we will evolve to that, no matter how unlikely that seems.
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 12:16 pm

I don't think it was divisive at all really. I think we mostly all agreed you were wrong.


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ousdahl wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 12:17 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 12:16 pm

I don't think it was divisive at all really. I think we mostly all agreed you were wrong.


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Well of course he won, anything is better than a liberal in trump's corner of Merica. He might even get bonus screen time on FoxNews if he claims he is being persecuted by the liberals for being a "real conservative".

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