Conference Realignment..?

[DCHawk1]

sigh

[japhy]

sigh

You sound old and tired

[TDub]

this new era of "college" athletics sucks. I miss conferences being regional. I miss the Big 8.

[ousdahl]

whoa, I should check this bored more often.

imagine traveling from Los Angeles to New Jersey on like a Tuesday night in January

[MICHHAWK]

this presents a fantastic opportunity for the BIG 12.

right now go get utah and colorado.

the acc is going to begin to crack.

right now make a play for louisville.

this is a fantastic opportunity for the BIG 12. i'm pumped.

[NewtonHawk11]

The Big 12 does have an opportunity. Still wouldn't be my favorite opportunity for Kansas, but an opportunity.

[twocoach]

USC and UCLA to B1G is official.

So now Bill Walton has to call the Big Ten the "Conference of Champions" through an entire telecast?

[MICHHAWK]

where we are positioned geographically, we can reach to our west and pluck the pac. and we can reach to our east and pluck the acc.

this is a fantastic opportunity for the BIG 12.

[CrimsonNBlue]

The Big 12 does have an opportunity. Still wouldn't be my favorite opportunity for Kansas, but an opportunity.

Right. No matter if it concerns the B1G or Big 12, this is the best news for KU in conference realignment in a long, long time.

[CrimsonNBlue]

and we can reach to our east and pluck the acc.

There are very, very high contractual and monetary hurdles to clear to get anyone out of the ACC, but I do think that schools like Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Florida State might be attainable if the Big 12 were to add a couple of strong Pac schools, particularly the Arizona schools.

[twocoach]

and we can reach to our east and pluck the acc.

There are very, very high contractual and monetary hurdles to clear to get anyone out of the ACC, but I do think that schools like Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Florida State might be attainable if the Big 12 were to add a couple of strong Pac schools, particularly the Arizona schools.

If Notre Dame gets yanked out of the ACC then that house of cards will fall apart quickly.

[UnholyLivingDead]

It's extremely unlikely that anyone from the ACC goes anywhere for a long time. Their grant of rights agreement runs until 2035-36. Any school that leaves before then would have to forfeit upwards of 9 figures in revenue. If someone were to leave the ACC early, they'd still probably wait a few years for that number to go down considerably. Notre Dame's situation is unique in that they would have to forfeit revenue for every sport except football.

[Cascadia]

I don’t think the ACC schools are going anywhere. If they do, it would be something like Clemson, Florida State and Miami going to the SEC and Notre Dame going to the Big 10.

[CrimsonNBlue]

I don’t think the ACC schools are going anywhere. If they do, it would be something like Clemson, Florida State and Miami going to the SEC and Notre Dame going to the Big 10.

It's highly unlikely because of the contractual stuff, I agree.

But, I wouldn't hate to see the new Big 12 Jay-Z CEO not be such a traditional, good ol' boy pussy like so many of the conferences' commissioners.

The Pac-12 statement yesterday sounded exactly like the Big 12 the last decade.

[UnholyLivingDead]

I don’t think the ACC schools are going anywhere. If they do, it would be something like Clemson, Florida State and Miami going to the SEC and Notre Dame going to the Big 10.

It's highly unlikely because of the contractual stuff, I agree.

But, I wouldn't hate to see the new Big 12 Jay-Z CEO not be such a traditional, good ol' boy pussy like so many of the conferences' commissioners.

The Pac-12 statement yesterday sounded exactly like the Big 12 the last decade.

The best thing the new commissioner can do is come in and be aggressive in solidifying the Big 12's spot as #3. You're not going to be able to buy your way into 1 or 2. That's nailed down now. If KU doesn't land a spot in say a 20-team B1G, the opportunity exists to make the Big 12 work. But the new commissioner can't come in and sit on his thumb the way Bob Bowlsby did for 10 years.

[CrimsonNBlue]

I don’t think the ACC schools are going anywhere. If they do, it would be something like Clemson, Florida State and Miami going to the SEC and Notre Dame going to the Big 10.

It's highly unlikely because of the contractual stuff, I agree.

But, I wouldn't hate to see the new Big 12 Jay-Z CEO not be such a traditional, good ol' boy pussy like so many of the conferences' commissioners.

The Pac-12 statement yesterday sounded exactly like the Big 12 the last decade.

The best thing the new commissioner can do is come in and be aggressive in solidifying the Big 12's spot as #3. You're not going to be able to buy your way into 1 or 2. That's nailed down now. If KU doesn't land a spot in say a 20-team B1G, the opportunity exists to make the Big 12 work. But the new commissioner can't come in and sit on his thumb the way Bob Bowlsby did for 10 years.

With all due respect, I just don't see any path for the Big 12 to grab a bigger per-school revenue share than the ACC without Texas. Not to mention the league is also replacing it's 2nd biggest football brand.

[UnholyLivingDead]

It's highly unlikely because of the contractual stuff, I agree.

But, I wouldn't hate to see the new Big 12 Jay-Z CEO not be such a traditional, good ol' boy pussy like so many of the conferences' commissioners.

The Pac-12 statement yesterday sounded exactly like the Big 12 the last decade.

The best thing the new commissioner can do is come in and be aggressive in solidifying the Big 12's spot as #3. You're not going to be able to buy your way into 1 or 2. That's nailed down now. If KU doesn't land a spot in say a 20-team B1G, the opportunity exists to make the Big 12 work. But the new commissioner can't come in and sit on his thumb the way Bob Bowlsby did for 10 years.

With all due respect, I just don't see any path for the Big 12 to grab a bigger per-school revenue share than the ACC without Texas. Not to mention the league is also replacing it's 2nd biggest football brand.

My thought is that there aren't that many big national brands left to move around anyway. If the endgame is a 20+ member B1G and a 20+ member SEC then the rest is a wash. The Big 12 being in the middle of the country with the ability to go either east or west because they have a footprint in both places is probably more valuable than what the Pac 12 has right now. And the ACC is pinned in by the SEC. If the time comes for the SEC to poach the 2 or 3 good ACC football brands, the ACC doesn't have anywhere to expand. Going further north up the east coast doesn't make your brand better in the eyes of football.

[CrimsonNBlue]

The best thing the new commissioner can do is come in and be aggressive in solidifying the Big 12's spot as #3. You're not going to be able to buy your way into 1 or 2. That's nailed down now. If KU doesn't land a spot in say a 20-team B1G, the opportunity exists to make the Big 12 work. But the new commissioner can't come in and sit on his thumb the way Bob Bowlsby did for 10 years.

With all due respect, I just don't see any path for the Big 12 to grab a bigger per-school revenue share than the ACC without Texas. Not to mention the league is also replacing it's 2nd biggest football brand.

My thought is that there aren't that many big national brands left to move around anyway. If the endgame is a 20+ member B1G and a 20+ member SEC then the rest is a wash. The Big 12 being in the middle of the country with the ability to go either east or west because they have a footprint in both places is probably more valuable than what the Pac 12 has right now. And the ACC is pinned in by the SEC. If the time comes for the SEC to poach the 2 or 3 good ACC football brands, the ACC doesn't have anywhere to expand. Going further north up the east coast doesn't make your brand better in the eyes of football.

I understand where you're coming from now, although I'd venture to guess that the ACC could eat the Big 12 quicker than the other way around.

That said, I didn't really consider this scenario, because under the 20+ BIG and SEC scenario, I very much want, and very much believe, that KU would find itself in one of the 20+ conferences, the most likely being B1G.

[UnholyLivingDead]

With all due respect, I just don't see any path for the Big 12 to grab a bigger per-school revenue share than the ACC without Texas. Not to mention the league is also replacing it's 2nd biggest football brand.

My thought is that there aren't that many big national brands left to move around anyway. If the endgame is a 20+ member B1G and a 20+ member SEC then the rest is a wash. The Big 12 being in the middle of the country with the ability to go either east or west because they have a footprint in both places is probably more valuable than what the Pac 12 has right now. And the ACC is pinned in by the SEC. If the time comes for the SEC to poach the 2 or 3 good ACC football brands, the ACC doesn't have anywhere to expand. Going further north up the east coast doesn't make your brand better in the eyes of football.

I understand where you're coming from now, although I'd venture to guess that the ACC could eat the Big 12 quicker than the other way around.

That said, I didn't really consider this scenario, because under the 20+ BIG and SEC scenario, I very much want, and very much believe, that KU would find itself in one of the 20+ conferences, the most likely being B1G.

I totally agree with you, if the B1G ends up going to 20-24 teams, I am confident KU will have a spot there. I just think there's an opportunity for the Big 12 to be in decent shape in the smaller chance that does not happen.

[KUTradition]

being stuck in a second tier Big 12 (or any other conference) would suck donkey balls