F the NCAA

[KUTradition]

https://deseret.com/2022/8/31/23330206/ ... volleyball

[Cascadia]

https://deseret.com/2022/8/31/23330206/ ... volleyball

Very interesting

[KUTradition]

i don’t deny that BYU has its issues (and i am often the first to point out those issues since i’ve experienced that campus/culture first-hand)

but, something isn’t adding up

i’m not familiar with volleyball smack, but is it called a “netter” when a serve goes into the net? just spit-ballin’ here, but could someone shouting not to serve a netter (if that’s even a thing) be misheard as the n-word?

[Deleted User 863]

You 2 are so predictable.

I've got Cascadia believing police/backing the blue!,
and Trad defending racists/accusing a black girl of lying about what happened.

Quite the turn of events. Although I guess what they say is true, trad is just defending his people. Probably indicates systemic racism is built into the fabric of that university.

[KUTradition]

stalkers gonna stalk

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

"I see absolutely zero reason to believe the Duke player(s) lied about this.
Why would she make something like that up?"

While 99.999% in agreement, and the rest of the Duke players are there for verification, see Jussie Smollett.

Jussie Smollett is an actor/singer. He wanted to benefit from the publicity.

This is a college student who probably wishes none of this ever happened. She gains little to nothing from this incident being fabricated.

I agree it's very strange that she would make it up but here are somethingS to ponder.....
It was Richardson’s godmother, Lesa Pamplin, who first notified the world of this via a tweet. There were NUMEROUS media people in attendance and not a single one said anything about it - why not?
There isn't a single person (white or black) who can prove this happened? They have replayed the video of the match and supposedly no one can find/hear anyone yelling the n word.
It SEEMS Richardson didn't make it public until the next day.

[hoopla]

You 2 are so predictable.

I've got Cascadia believing police/backing the blue!,
and Trad defending racists/accusing a black girl of lying about what happened.

Quite the turn of events. Although I guess what they say is true, trad is just defending his people. Probably indicates systemic racism is built into the fabric of that university.

i'm just waiting to get more information before i decide what happened/didn't happen. is that wrong?
if we're talking hypotheticals, then sure, i have strong opinions. but this was an actual event with cell phones and videos, so maybe we don't have to guess, believe, defend, and can instead just wait for the evidence?

[Deleted User 863]

You 2 are so predictable.

I've got Cascadia believing police/backing the blue!,
and Trad defending racists/accusing a black girl of lying about what happened.

Quite the turn of events. Although I guess what they say is true, trad is just defending his people. Probably indicates systemic racism is built into the fabric of that university.

i'm just waiting to get more information before i decide what happened/didn't happen. is that wrong?
if we're talking hypotheticals, then sure, i have strong opinions. but this was an actual event with cell phones and videos, so maybe we don't have to guess, believe, defend, and can instead just wait for the evidence?

That's a very reasonable stance.

But dumb and dumber up there don't have a history of being the kind of guys who want to wait for evidence (or even need evidence). They have a history of exactly the opposite.

But suddenly when it's Trads beloved BYU racists under heat he needs to see evidence before believing a person who has no apparent reason to lie.

And suddenly Cascadia believes the words of police who he typically believes are liars racists and murderers.

Interesting.

[KUTradition]

you’re LITERALLY the only one that’s jumped to conclusions here

[Deleted User 863]

Literally? You sure that's what has happened here?

Me thinks not.

[ousdahl]

"They're not even pretending anymore. It's about money," said Jason Stahl, head of the College Football Players Association.

The CFBPA is not a union, but an advocacy and organizing group that has argued for elite college football players to receive a share of the revenue earned through college football games. Stahl said that at one point, the Big Ten would've at least paid lip service to the idea that their decisions are in the best interests of their athletes' academic careers. But now, Stahl sees that pretense as gone.

"Because the idea that a college athlete getting on a cross-continental flight to play a game is somehow in service of an academic agenda is obviously absurd," he said.

...

Football and basketball take up a lot of the conversation around college sports because they bring in the money. Money that's used to subsidize other sports. Which introduces a racial dynamic to this, said Jackson, considering the top tier players in NCAA football and basketball are majority Black. "And the athletes who are being subsidized are often the privileged kids who play water polo or rowing or tennis or golf," and who are less likely to be in need of a scholarship to go to college.

[TDub]

if they'd stop the absolute shit show that is conference realignment there would be a whole lot less cross country flights to worry about. its all fucked up, all the way around, and its ruining the sports

[Cascadia]

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... all-player

What a bizarre fucking saga.

BYU trash either way though.

[Deleted User 863]

Of course they didn't find any evidence

[hoopla]

Of course they didn't find any evidence

i'm not following?

[Deleted User 863]

Of course they didn't find any evidence

i'm not following?

Did you really think BYU would find "evidence" of that incident and self report? Or that the racist students would go on the record saying they sat by while racist shit was being said to a black player?

I didn't.

Kind of like expecting Duke to self investigate Zion's recruitment and find evidence to turn in.

[pdub]

No it’s not.

They banned the fan pretty quickly after the allegations. Having the fan there at a volleyball game in the future makes no difference to the BYU program but banning Zion or saying Duke committed infractions would hurt the Duke program.

[jfish26]

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... all-player

What a bizarre fucking saga.

BYU trash either way though.

Not looking forward to having another Baylor in the league.

[Cascadia]

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... all-player

What a bizarre fucking saga.

BYU trash either way though.

Not looking forward to having another Baylor in the league.

Right? Said this so many times, but we have to find a way out of this trash heap of a conference

[hoopla]

Of course they didn't find any evidence

i'm not following?

Did you really think BYU would find "evidence" of that incident and self report? Or that the racist students would go on the record saying they sat by while racist shit was being said to a black player?

I didn't.

Kind of like expecting Duke to self investigate Zion's recruitment and find evidence to turn in.

i dunno. i certainly wouldn't expect much from the interviews, you're right about that. but videos and audio would surely show something, and i really don't think BYU is dumb enough to try to hide that something which, if it exists, will inevitably make its way to social media at some point. do you think its possible in this day and age for a thousand people (or however-many) to all implicitly agree and hide something like that? does byu staff really have a north korea-level of control over that info?