Da Weed Thread

[ousdahl]

actually, that brings up a point:

most marijuana convictions occur at the state level.

sorry, but gotta go full pols bored about this one.

The democratic party in a nutshell: empty gestures carefully crafted for maximum PR lulz.

All 6,500 people expected to be pardoned federally are not currently in prison, an official said, and “there is no individual currently in federal prisons solely for simple possession of marijuana.”

https://nypost.com/2022/10/06/biden-to- ... ossession/











































also, this is the 420th post in da weed thread.

[CrimsonNBlue]

actually, that brings up a point:

most marijuana convictions occur at the state level.

sorry, but gotta go full pols bored about this one.

The democratic party in a nutshell: empty gestures carefully crafted for maximum PR lulz.

What is the executive branch supposed to do regarding state convictions? I’ll wait.


Now, rescheduling is long overdue. Should have brought that up—fits your narrative much cleaner.

[CrimsonNBlue]

All 6,500 people expected to be pardoned federally are not currently in prison, an official said, and “there is no individual currently in federal prisons solely for simple possession of marijuana.”

https://nypost.com/2022/10/06/biden-to- ... ossession/

And yes, correct. I thought everyone was making a much bigger deal out of this than it is. There will be a practical effect on very, very few people. But for maybe just a few, the effect means everything. A major function of government is to protect the minority.

[CrimsonNBlue]

all good with that.....instead let's go after fetanyl....as a parent that shit is scary. stashes of rainbow colored pills found in Legos and candy packets......no Bueno.

[KUTradition]

actually, that brings up a point:

most marijuana convictions occur at the state level.

sorry, but gotta go full pols bored about this one.

The democratic party in a nutshell: empty gestures carefully crafted for maximum PR lulz.

What is the executive branch supposed to do regarding state convictions? I’ll wait.


Now, rescheduling is long overdue. Should have brought that up—fits your narrative much cleaner.

for most everyone, this is the more consequential part…and it’s not getting nearly enough play

granted there’s nothing tangible yet, but still

[CrimsonNBlue]

Rescheduling is the first domino for full legalization in this country. Can obviously only happen at the fed level. Yesterday was the first time we’ve heard something tangible that there’s serious consideration to pushing over that domino.

[ousdahl]

[twocoach]

actually, that brings up a point:

most marijuana convictions occur at the state level.

sorry, but gotta go full pols bored about this one.

The democratic party in a nutshell: empty gestures carefully crafted for maximum PR lulz.

All 6,500 people expected to be pardoned federally are not currently in prison, an official said, and “there is no individual currently in federal prisons solely for simple possession of marijuana.”

https://nypost.com/2022/10/06/biden-to- ... ossession/

Hopefully it is the first sign of movement towards the additional steps that need to be done (rescheduling). Baby steps.

[randylahey]

I think there's only about 6500 people affected by this. Federal level Marijuana simple possession convictions

[randylahey]

But the idea is for state governors to do the same within their states

[MICHHAWK]

this pot announcement. student loan giveaways. this is what we call the razzle dazzle. meant to distract from what is really going on.

these things are meaningless to almost all. but it is meant to pull our attention away from what is really happening.

targeted towards the young people. somebody needs to tell uncle joe the youngsters don't vote.

[CrimsonNBlue]

Oof.

Joe Biden defeated Donald Trump 306-232 in the Electoral College and had a 4-point margin in the popular vote. While Biden’s popular vote differential was an improvement over Hillary Clinton’s 2016 2-point advantage, it was not as resounding as congressional Democrats’ 9-point advantage over Republicans in votes cast in the 2018 elections for the U.S. House of Representatives.
. . .
Both Trump and Biden were able to bring new voters into the political process in 2020. The 19% of 2020 voters who did not vote in 2016 or 2018 split roughly evenly between the two candidates (49% Biden vs. 47% Trump). However, as with voters overall, there was a substantial age divide within this group. Among those under age 30 who voted in 2020 but not in either of the two previous elections, Biden led 59% to 33%, while Trump won among new or irregular voters ages 30 and older by 55% to 42%. Younger voters also made up an outsize share of these voters: Those under age 30 made up 38% of new or irregular 2020 voters, though they represented just 15% of all 2020 voters.
. . .
After decades of constituting the majority of voters, Baby Boomers and members of the Silent Generation made up less than half of the electorate in 2020 (44%), falling below the 52% they constituted in both 2016 and 2018. Gen Z and Millennial voters favored Biden over Trump by margins of about 20 points, while Gen Xers and Boomers were more evenly split in their preferences. Gen Z voters, those ages 23 and younger, constituted 8% of the electorate, while Millennials and Gen Xers made up 47% of 2020 voters.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/20 ... 0-victory/

And to think how many more of that 44% died of COVID since November 2020.

[twocoach]

this pot announcement. student loan giveaways. this is what we call the razzle dazzle. meant to distract from what is really going on.

these things are meaningless to almost all. but it is meant to pull our attention away from what is really happening.

targeted towards the young people. somebody needs to tell uncle joe the youngsters don't vote.

Good grief. These things don't distract from anything. So dumb.

[MICHHAWK]

no doubt the young people will be out in their droves in november. voting up a storm.

[KUTradition]

those michiganders…

[MICHHAWK]

These things don't distract from anything.

don't tell uncle joe. because up next is free vape pens. and gamestop store credit.

[Overlander]

These things don't distract from anything.

don't tell uncle joe. because up next is free vape pens. and gamestop store credit.

Has someone, at some point, told you that you are clever or witty?

They were just trying to be nice.

[pdub]

I made money during those GameStop two day shenanigans.

Several companies should be sued for all their worth for how they handled that.

[ousdahl]

More angles:

- so the feds will “initiate the process of reviewing how marijuana is scheduled.” What’s the timeline for that?

- most marijuana convictions occur at the state and local levels. Biden suggested state and local authorities also consider pardons. Is there any teeth to it tho? Could Biden tie that to federal criminal justice grants or something? Won’t many state and local officials just ignore his suggestion otherwise?

- hasn’t Biden otherwise been harsh about drugs, a big proponent of the war on drugs, done a lot to increase policing, increase prisons, increase sentences, and generally grow the police state larger and larger?

Not that that doesn’t mean he can’t do better going forward.

But, doesn’t he at least have some power to do a lot more in a hurry than pardon a calculated small number of folks who weren’t in jail anyway?

I realize things like this may take baby steps. I’m just trying to balance baby steps against meaningless performative gestures.

Cuz didn’t Biden very recently sign a bill giving tens of billions of federal money to cops?

I’m concerned he’s gonna parade around as “the guy who pardoned the potheads” even though he overall actually is and has been on the wrong side of the issue of marijuana, historically and real time.

[twocoach]

More angles:

- so the feds will “initiate the process of reviewing how marijuana is scheduled.” What’s the timeline for that?

- most marijuana convictions occur at the state and local levels. Biden suggested state and local authorities also consider pardons. Is there any teeth to it tho? Could Biden tie that to federal criminal justice grants or something? Won’t many state and local officials just ignore his suggestion otherwise?

- hasn’t Biden otherwise been harsh about drugs, a big proponent of the war on drugs, done a lot to increase policing, increase prisons, increase sentences, and generally grow the police state larger and larger?

Not that that doesn’t mean he can’t do better going forward.

But, doesn’t he at least have some power to do a lot more in a hurry than pardon a calculated small number of folks who weren’t in jail anyway?

I realize things like this may take baby steps. I’m just trying to balance baby steps against meaningless performative gestures.

Cuz didn’t Biden very recently sign a bill giving tens of billions of federal money to cops?

I’m concerned he’s gonna parade around as “the guy who pardoned the potheads” even though he overall actually is and has been on the wrong side of the issue of marijuana, historically and real time.

Times change. What people wanted 30 years ago isn't what people want today so the fact that Biden was big on sending drug crimes to prison decades ago has no bearing on today other than that we now have decades of additional years of data on just how ineffective locking people up for drug possession crimes is in the overall scheme of things.