More evidence that religious threads make you dum

[Overlander]

Like a scene out of Rosemarys baby

[defixione]

Found it:

[ousdahl]

makes you wonder just how much is lost in translation

[twocoach]

makes you wonder just how much is lost in translation

Makes me wonder why anyone treats it as more than a work of historical fiction.

[ousdahl]

I find much of the Bible to contain valuable moral lessons.

(Spoiler alert! For every Bible verse interpreted to condemn gay folks, there are hundreds of verses explicitly condemning Evil Rich People…among other gems)

But it’s a matter of focusing on that stuff, rather than focusing on the supernatural stuff, which indeed is closer to “historical fiction” than some universal lessons for the betterment of humanity)

[twocoach]

I find much of the Bible to contain valuable moral lessons.

(Spoiler alert! For every Bible verse interpreted to condemn gay folks, there are hundreds of verses explicitly condemning Evil Rich People…among other gems)

But it’s a matter of focusing on that stuff, rather than focusing on the supernatural stuff, which indeed is closer to “historical fiction” than some universal lessons for the betterment of humanity)

The Tao of Pooh contains some valuable moral lessons as well but I don't see anyone trying to pass laws that govern our citizens based on a translation of it's contents.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

I find much of the Bible to contain valuable moral lessons.

(Spoiler alert! For every Bible verse interpreted to condemn gay folks, there are hundreds of verses explicitly condemning Evil Rich People…among other gems)

But it’s a matter of focusing on that stuff, rather than focusing on the supernatural stuff, which indeed is closer to “historical fiction” than some universal lessons for the betterment of humanity)

I feel I got more meaningful valuable moral lessons from watching Mr. Roger's Neighborhood than I did from going to Temple and reading the Bible and Torah.
OOOPS! That's right! Fred Rodgers was a Presbyterian Minister. Perhaps I should convert to Presbyterianism?

[ousdahl]

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/26/11194887 ... gns-arabic

There are those who heed the warning "don't mess with Texas," and then there are those who do the exact opposite.

Activist Chaz Stevens is in the second group.

He's taking on a Texas law that requires public schools to display signs and posters with the national motto "In God We Trust" in "conspicuous places." The law requires that the signs were either donated or purchased from private donations to the school.

Stevens, who lives in Florida and is known for his petitions to local governments, heard of the law about a week ago and told NPR he was irritated by the move to bring religion — in this case, Christianity — into schools.

"That should be irritating for you, regardless of what God or not-God you believe in," he said.

As far as he could tell, there was no requirement that the motto be written in English. He decided to start a fundraising campaign to send posters to schools around the state with the motto written in Arabic instead.

[jhawks99]

I knew someone would troll this "law". That's allsome.

[Cascadia]

Love it

[ousdahl]

Yeshiva University cancels all clubs after it was ordered to allow an LGBTQ group

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/17/11236381 ... lgbtq-club


might be pols boredy but asking here cuz I think it's some broader question yet:

at what point is religious freedom actually just bigotry?

[ousdahl]

one test I've heard is whenever someone cries "religious freedom," ask - what rights are you being denied on the basis of your religion, that everyone else is being afforded?

Are you not allowed to marry someone cuz of your religion? Are you getting kicked off your partner's health insurance? Are you not allowed to use the same drinking fountain? Are you not allowed to gather in your churches to worship? What freedom is being infringed here?

And the other side of the coin - in the case of LGBTQ groups, where do their rights begin?

[Overlander]

Yeshiva University cancels all clubs after it was ordered to allow an LGBTQ group

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/17/11236381 ... lgbtq-club


at what point is religious freedom actually just bigotry?

Right from the get go

[KUTradition]

^^^^^

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Yeshiva University cancels all clubs after it was ordered to allow an LGBTQ group

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/17/11236381 ... lgbtq-club


might be pols boredy but asking here cuz I think it's some broader question yet:

at what point is religious freedom actually just bigotry?

Many Orthodox and Hassidic Jews will tell you that Conservative and Reform Jews are not real Jews. That's fine with me when Yeshiva pulls sh*t like this. In fact, I'm honored being that I don't want to be considered a part of their narishkeit.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

[zsn]

Don’t messages like this usually end with God wants you to send $$$? Someone has dropped the ball!

[KUTradition]

O’h

[ousdahl]

"better to have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned"