on the heels of this recent report from WWF
https://www.worldwildlife.org/press-rel ... wwf-report
an even more frightening perspective
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
Re: an even more frightening perspective
yuck. I'll never see the wildlife my grandparents saw.....my grandkids may never see any outside a zoo.KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:02 pmon the heels of this recent report from WWF
https://www.worldwildlife.org/press-rel ... wwf-report
Just Ledoux it
Re: an even more frightening perspective
StayCurious saw two squirrels and a meadowlark today so everything is fine.
He's trusting his reality.
He's trusting his reality.
Re: an even more frightening perspective
StayCurious reminds me of a certain comes-and-goes poster.
I'm tempted to suggest one of the previous user names
but maybe it's better to just...remain inquisitive...about StayCurious instead...
I'm tempted to suggest one of the previous user names
but maybe it's better to just...remain inquisitive...about StayCurious instead...
Re: an even more frightening perspective
yea.
I'm curious about the idea of throwing soup on a CEO as a protest statement, more so than on some famous old art. It's not like the one reaping record oil profits is Van Gogh.
I'm guessing that would go from a vandalism charge to full on assault, though? among other potential issues.
If we're gonna make some push against oil, and do so within the status quo...could we, say, somehow build some legal case against oil CEO types that they've been defrauding us for years? They've known oil is bad for a long ass time and, at the very least, did a lot to downplay that anyway...right?
Who would even bring that case? DoJ and state AGs? Some interest group? Some bigger international authority yet? Congress? even if they have some legal ability (not even sure they do), but even if they did, the average congressman is so flush with oil lobby cash that they're not gonna bite the hand that feeds any time soon, right?
Or perhaps...if we may go full Qusdahl...could the better solution come from outside some status quo instead?
I'm curious about the idea of throwing soup on a CEO as a protest statement, more so than on some famous old art. It's not like the one reaping record oil profits is Van Gogh.
I'm guessing that would go from a vandalism charge to full on assault, though? among other potential issues.
If we're gonna make some push against oil, and do so within the status quo...could we, say, somehow build some legal case against oil CEO types that they've been defrauding us for years? They've known oil is bad for a long ass time and, at the very least, did a lot to downplay that anyway...right?
Who would even bring that case? DoJ and state AGs? Some interest group? Some bigger international authority yet? Congress? even if they have some legal ability (not even sure they do), but even if they did, the average congressman is so flush with oil lobby cash that they're not gonna bite the hand that feeds any time soon, right?
Or perhaps...if we may go full Qusdahl...could the better solution come from outside some status quo instead?
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i become skeptical when the protestors hang around to take selfies and sign autographs. i think that was more tiktok challenge .
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apparently due to climate change, and change-induced cannibalism
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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yuck. I'll never see the wildlife my grandparents saw.....my grandkids may never see any outside a zoo.
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On my walk yesterday I saw:
4 turkeys
2 herrons
1 swan
1 deer
1 turtle
1 frog
Countless geese and ducks
I am a grandparent. So maybe that’s why.
yuck. I'll never see the wildlife my grandparents saw.....my grandkids may never see any outside a zoo.
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On my walk yesterday I saw:
4 turkeys
2 herrons
1 swan
1 deer
1 turtle
1 frog
Countless geese and ducks
I am a grandparent. So maybe that’s why.
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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I always thought it was Gohmert who pulled that stunt.
Defense. Rebounds.
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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https://gizmodo.com/rich-countries-keep ... ce=msnlink
i don’t know what’s worse…two-faced politicians or the masses more worried about short-term gas prices than our collective long-term health
i don’t know what’s worse…two-faced politicians or the masses more worried about short-term gas prices than our collective long-term health
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Re: an even more frightening perspective
Gas and oil has little to do with it.
If we want to be brutally honest. The main cause of the downfall of biodiversity is us feeding ourselves. Animal agriculture is the leading cause of habitat loss, species extinction, pollution of the oceans, destruction of the rainforest. All of it comes back to that
Fossil fuels are minor compared to that
If we want to be brutally honest. The main cause of the downfall of biodiversity is us feeding ourselves. Animal agriculture is the leading cause of habitat loss, species extinction, pollution of the oceans, destruction of the rainforest. All of it comes back to that
Fossil fuels are minor compared to that
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you should get out more
1) agriculture in general, not just animal agriculture, is only part of the larger issue of habitat loss and change
2) the fossil fuel industry is more than just oil and gas
3) the issues threatening biodiversity are absolutely inter-related, and imo must be treated as such
4) climate will only increase in its impact on species’ viability. we’re vastly lacking in data on individual species’ climate/environmental niches, making the actual current effect a likely underestimate (most of those species for which we do have data support this supposition)
5) as with climate in general, implications from things like microplastics (hello fossil fuel industry) are still largely unknown, for both humans and non-humans
6) the point of the article was point out the failings of the “world leaders” to actually lead and follow through with their pledges
1) agriculture in general, not just animal agriculture, is only part of the larger issue of habitat loss and change
2) the fossil fuel industry is more than just oil and gas
3) the issues threatening biodiversity are absolutely inter-related, and imo must be treated as such
4) climate will only increase in its impact on species’ viability. we’re vastly lacking in data on individual species’ climate/environmental niches, making the actual current effect a likely underestimate (most of those species for which we do have data support this supposition)
5) as with climate in general, implications from things like microplastics (hello fossil fuel industry) are still largely unknown, for both humans and non-humans
6) the point of the article was point out the failings of the “world leaders” to actually lead and follow through with their pledges
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
Re: an even more frightening perspective
it has been in the 70's where i live these last several days. the climate is perfect for this time of year.
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?