an even more frightening perspective

[KUTradition]

i should also point out that the issue isn’t just biodiversity loss, but biodensity loss

the recent reports of 60-70% reductions in animal populations globally isn’t necessarily the same as biodiversity loss

[MICHHAWK]

this time of year. i shouldn't drive at night without being on high alert for deer.

[randylahey]

We probably grow more crops to feed our livestock than we do to feed ourselves globally. Agriculture often IS animal agriculture

Number one cause of rainforest destruction? Tearing down forest to create cropland to grow seed for livestock or create new grazing lands for livestock

Number one cause of ocean deadzones? Crop fertilizer runoff from fertilizer used on crops grown to feed our livestock

There is little difference separation of agriculture from animal agriculture because so much of our land and resources is tied up in feeding livestock

More fertile land is used for "agriculture" than is left wild and for the human population. So "agriculture" is the leading of species extinction

[KUTradition]

settle down, nancy

i wasn’t disagreeing with you

[ousdahl]

[Deleted User 863]

That'll do the trick!

[jhawks99]

I'm not sure I get the point. This is not helping anyone's cause.

[TDub]

wtf are they doing? Who got together and said these were good ideas. I am against hammers..so im going to destroy a vacuum.

What's next? An egg thrown at the statue of liberty or something? I know at least 52 people would be on board with following that kinda action.

[ousdahl]

The activist who threw soup on a van Gogh says it's the planet that's being destroyed

[ousdahl]

on one hand, I can get the point, about not being sure whether this is helping anyone's cause.

but on the other hand, which really got more attention:

these folks throwing soup on famous paintings, or the dood who self-immolated on the Scotus steps?

and if you aren't familiar with the dood who self-immolated on the Scotus steps, there's your answer.

[pdub]

But the attention isn't valuable.
I'd argue it could be doing the reverse for the average world citizen.

I'm certainly not going to click on that NPR clip and hear about what that person thinks and i'm a major advocate for pushing for/putting money into clean/resuable energy.

And if I already think climate change is a serious issue, and these people damaging art just makes me mad and not want to support/listen to their bullshit, then what does it do to someone who is on the fence whether climate change is real?

[twocoach]

It mostly just tells me that today's young activists are not very good at figuring out how to protest productively yet. They're young and trying so hats off to them.

[ousdahl]

the self-immolator was like 50 btw.

what DOES constitute a productive protest, though?

[KUTradition]

global cooperation or collective suicide

smfh…

[ousdahl]

[TDub]

oh that'll do it. That should make it all better now. Good job Rainn. Maybe he can throw something at a one of a kind, irreplaceable piece of art next.

[KUTradition]

[ousdahl]

her spelling is on point and everything!

[KUTradition]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/o ... 852956002/

[ousdahl]

If only there wuz some ideology that directly addresses climate change as a core tenet, rejecting infinite consumption and token performative gestures in favor of rethinking entire systems to focus on sustainability and conservation.

If only there wuz!