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when you own it. you can do what you want with it.
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StayCurious wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:16 pm
randylahey wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:43 am Its good to limit actual hate speech. But for awhile there, democrats were using the term "hate speech" and "disinformation" to censor opinions that didn't fall in line with their agenda. Particularly with covid
Don't worry, the media will use all they can to make Musk look like a racist, dangerous hate speech advocate.
He’s been doing a great job of that for many years without any assistance from the media, thank you very much.
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ousdahl wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:48 am leave it to randy to equate those "please don't chug horse dewormer" warnings with the N-word.
Thats odd. I never mentioned either of those things
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oh, excuse me. Would you like to provide a better example of what you meant when you you mentioned "hate speech" and "disinformation" in the context of covid?
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StayCurious wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:16 pm
randylahey wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:43 am Its good to limit actual hate speech. But for awhile there, democrats were using the term "hate speech" and "disinformation" to censor opinions that didn't fall in line with their agenda. Particularly with covid
Don't worry, the media will use all they can to make Musk look like a racist, dangerous hate speech advocate. I'm just glad he fired all those people who were censoring people.
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Ugh. Hate speech IS protected by 1A.

Of course, that really has nothing to do with twitter regulating its platform.
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how's that work?

It's protected by 1A but can still be used as evidence against you in a hate crime trial if you display a confederate flag on your truck and drop N-bombs as you chase and gun down a jogger, for instance?
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Yes. Hate speech won't be precluded from evidence in a hate crime trial. I'm sure there are requirements there, nexus, etc. You're still punishing action, not words. Also if the words rise to the level of an immediate and true threat, then words themselves are not protected--very narrow, though.
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But this is all to say that, good on LeBron and Elon for shedding light on important topics. However, since we are not trying to win a drawing a bad foul call contest or build an overpriced electric plastic car, let's get someone else to weigh in.
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Was gonna put this in the Kanye thread, but seems to fit well here too

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ousdahl wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:34 am oh, excuse me. Would you like to provide a better example of what you meant when you you mentioned "hate speech" and "disinformation" in the context of covid?
Covid disinformation = using common sense to come up with basic assumptions that go against the mainstream political covid narrative.

Only to have them admit it 6 months later when the data backs up basic common sense
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People shouldn't be hateful. But if someone wants to say dumb hateful things and make themselves look like an asshole, so be it. The only person they are truly hurting is themselves
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Oh man.
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randylahey wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:52 am People shouldn't be hateful. But if someone wants to say dumb hateful things and make themselves look like an asshole, so be it. The only person they are truly hurting is themselves
I mostly agree, but then look at Nick Sandmann. The media lied about him and he was able to sue for millions. Someone says hateful things on twitter, no big deal. If the entire media is out to lie and slander you, that's something else.
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make any big bank deposits lately?

how about taking advantage of family members for profit?
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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StayCurious wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:22 am
randylahey wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:52 am People shouldn't be hateful. But if someone wants to say dumb hateful things and make themselves look like an asshole, so be it. The only person they are truly hurting is themselves
I mostly agree, but then look at Nick Sandmann. The media lied about him and he was able to sue for millions. Someone says hateful things on twitter, no big deal. If the entire media is out to lie and slander you, that's something else.
lol.

Submit the thread to Bad Legal Takes and then burn it to the ground.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:54 amOh man.
Shit is like a brush fire
"The truth is obtained like gold, not by letting it grow bigger, but by washing off from it everything that isn’t gold.” Tolstoy
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Why does lebron care who uses the n word? A lot the rappers he is friends with use it in their music all the time
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randylahey wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:40 pm Why does lebron care who uses the n word? A lot the rappers he is friends with use it in their music all the time
Selective outrage. The "bad guys" can't use it, but use good guys can.
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