Let’s have a war!
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Ousie- you should really listen to Maddow’s Ultra if you haven’t. The parallels are eerily similar
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Right on. Thanks for the recommendation. I don’t really do podcasts much but I’ll try to check it out.
Is it possible to get an elevator pitch about it?
Is it possible to get an elevator pitch about it?
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It’s about how the Nazis were DIRECTLY involved in using US politicians and their government perks to sow doubt among the population and divide public opinion about US getting into what would become WWII. They targeted anti-FDR Republicans (primarily) and antisemitic forces (Father Coughlin and America First*) to this end. The similarities to current Russian modus operandi are eerily similar - although Maddow hasn’t made that connection in the first 5 episodes (I haven’t listened to the 6th yet). It’s only 8 episodes of about 40 minutes each.
*Hmmmmm- where have we heard this phrase before……I wonder……
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Do they mention all the money US Banks profited lending money to the Nazis?zsn wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:06 pmIt’s about how the Nazis were DIRECTLY involved in using US politicians and their government perks to sow doubt among the population and divide public opinion about US getting into what would become WWII. They targeted anti-FDR Republicans (primarily) and antisemitic forces (Father Coughlin and America First*) to this end. The similarities to current Russian modus operandi are eerily similar - although Maddow hasn’t made that connection in the first 5 episodes (I haven’t listened to the 6th yet). It’s only 8 episodes of about 40 minutes each.
*Hmmmmm- where have we heard this phrase before……I wonder……
Specifically, the Bush family?
"The truth is obtained like gold, not by letting it grow bigger, but by washing off from it everything that isn’t gold.” Tolstoy
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Maybe it’s in a future episode 
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interesting.
I wonder if Maddow makes that connection - between German Nazis sowing doubt, and Russia's current efforts.
How effective were the Germans? Were there that many Americans downplaying the third reich or whatever?
I've considered that maybe I really am being fed Russian disinformation. But I still try to find the fine line between potential Russian disinformation and legitimate criticism of U.S. foreign policy. And if I HAVE been fed any Russian disinformation, I dunno how effective it is, cuz I still think Putin's a shithead and their invasion of Ukraine should be condemned.
and if a Russian disinformation campaign is going down right now, doesn't it seem pretty futile?
I mean, who have they successfully persuaded? Maybe a handful of far right lobsters who tweet some lip service hypocrisy but do nothing more than that, and an even smaller handful - like 1 or 2 individuals at a time - of Qusdahls who show up at a "Squad" presser only to get hysterical about nuclear war then get booed out of the place for even bringing it up?
I wonder if Maddow makes that connection - between German Nazis sowing doubt, and Russia's current efforts.
How effective were the Germans? Were there that many Americans downplaying the third reich or whatever?
I've considered that maybe I really am being fed Russian disinformation. But I still try to find the fine line between potential Russian disinformation and legitimate criticism of U.S. foreign policy. And if I HAVE been fed any Russian disinformation, I dunno how effective it is, cuz I still think Putin's a shithead and their invasion of Ukraine should be condemned.
and if a Russian disinformation campaign is going down right now, doesn't it seem pretty futile?
I mean, who have they successfully persuaded? Maybe a handful of far right lobsters who tweet some lip service hypocrisy but do nothing more than that, and an even smaller handful - like 1 or 2 individuals at a time - of Qusdahls who show up at a "Squad" presser only to get hysterical about nuclear war then get booed out of the place for even bringing it up?
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Listen to at least the first couple of episodes. The Nazis were very successful in delaying US entry into the fray.
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wasn't there more to it than just nazi meddling, tho?
I mean, once upon a time, didn't the United States actually have some interest in NOT getting involved in yet another war on the other side of the globe, and maybe even generally hesitate to militarily intervene about every single everything everywhere?
I should just listen.
I mean, once upon a time, didn't the United States actually have some interest in NOT getting involved in yet another war on the other side of the globe, and maybe even generally hesitate to militarily intervene about every single everything everywhere?
I should just listen.
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The Q in Qusdahl stands for questions. Never-ending questions.
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halfway through episode 2, and ho lee shit
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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wait, for real?
thanks 99.
I wish the "ignore" feature also meant those on ignore weren't able to quote you any more either.
cuz, JFC, even though I'm ignoring illy, he's still putting words in my mouth.
thanks 99.
I wish the "ignore" feature also meant those on ignore weren't able to quote you any more either.
cuz, JFC, even though I'm ignoring illy, he's still putting words in my mouth.
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I didn't quote you. I quoted zsn.
And you read every post I make whether I quote you or not.
And you read every post I make whether I quote you or not.
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:32 pm I didn't quote you. I quoted zsn.
And you read every post I make whether I quote you or not.
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come on now.
I know we haven't often agreed in this thread.
but, at least for this news, can we all agree on a good old-fashioned LULZ?
I know we haven't often agreed in this thread.
but, at least for this news, can we all agree on a good old-fashioned LULZ?