Government Shut-Down Thread

[Deleted User 89]

he can’t help it

gotta keep that narrative rolling

[dolomite]

It's disgusting that this is what this was about for many of you. At least we know where you stand. You don't get to criticize him for reopening it AND get to act as if you genuinely cared about the well being of the federal workers. Kind of sad honestly.

It's not "what it was about" for us. We're making fun of him for agreeing to the exact same deal he turned down 35 days ago. Dont be a dipshit.

Like he had a choice.

[Shirley]

It's disgusting that this is what this was about for many of you. At least we know where you stand. You don't get to criticize him for reopening it AND get to act as if you genuinely cared about the well being of the federal workers. Kind of sad honestly.

Trump lost. Period.

Things continue until they don’t. The senseless, cruel government shutdown ended on Friday. Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) had vowed she would not give anything until the government reopened. President Trump had promised he wouldn’t reopen the government without funding for his border wall. Now, Pelosi is getting what she wants. Trump has lost. The deal would reopen the government for three weeks to allow a conference committee to discuss border security measures — but not a wall.

...You cannot get thumped any worse than Trump did on this encounter with Pelosi. Each step along the way, the president stumbled. He told Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) “I will be the one to shut it down.” He’d be proud to do it! He wouldn’t blame them! He was then ready to sign a clean continuing resolution — until he listed to Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh and provoked a shutdown anyway.

In the iconic video from December, Schumer can barely contain his laughter. Inside, surely he was jumping up and down, delighting in Trump’s political malpractice.

...Ultimately, what may have convinced Trump to give up were all those polls he insisted that he was discounting. As Trump throws in the towel, a new Post/ABC poll underscores just how unpopular Trump has become during the Trump shutdown. “Public disapproval of President Trump has swelled five points to 58 percent over three months as a majority of Americans continue to hold him and congressional Republicans most responsible for the partial federal government shutdown.” Pelosi has fared much better. (“53 percent blame Trump and congressional Republicans while 34 percent blame Pelosi”). Meanwhile, independents critical to both midterm and presidential elections have fled in droves. Among independents, disapproval has soared from 53 percent in November to 63 percent now, while 54 percent say "Trump and Republicans are more responsible for [the shutdown] while 29 percent blame Pelosi and Democrats.”

We will see whether Trump’s collapse costs him with his base. If so, the bottom will fall out of his ratings. We are left with two final questions: Will there be serious primary challengers to Trump, who’s managed to prove his total incompetence? We’ll see. And will Pelosi get tired of winning? I think not.

[dolomite]

It ain't ova till it's ova. Trump may still declare the natl. emergency, so there.

[Deleted User 75]

The only losers in this are the federal workers who had their lives disrupted.

Glad to see it's more about politics than people for some of you.

Scumbags.

[Deleted User 75]

It ain't ova till it's ova. Trump may still declare the natl. emergency, so there.

Wonder if they'd #bossmove that?

[TDub]

Angry petulant child when refusing to agree to a deal.

Wimpy, pussy, caver when agreeing to a deal.

This 3 week deal means nothing. But at least we get some peiple paid, buy some time and try to move forward...maybe.

35 days of the fool.

Right. But we should be glad for some semblabce of progress right? Instead of seizing each opportunity to create a new batch of memes.

Lose lose, he keeps it going hes a dick. He gives in and hes a pussy. His own doing. Im just saying its too bad we cant be happy about something for once.

[Deleted User 89]

It ain't ova till it's ova. Trump may still declare the natl. emergency, so there.

what are you, 12?

so there...

[dolomite]

It ain't ova till it's ova. Trump may still declare the natl. emergency, so there.

what are you, 12?

so there...

I think probably a little older than you, so there.

[Shirley]

The only losers in this are the federal workers who had their lives disrupted.

Glad to see it's more about politics than people for some of you.

Scumbags.

^^^

"I've seen a lot of presidents take a victory lap before," he said. "But this is the first time I've seen a president go to the Rose Garden and take a defeat lap."

Trump held government workers hostage for a month — and walked away with nothing

President Donald Trump promised a wall. He got a procedural death trap.

More than that, he undermined the brand he's tried to build as an indefatigable fighter, a master strategist and the world's savviest deal-maker. On all those counts, he lost — and lost big — Friday.

Usually, the loser in Washington gets some sort of policy fig leaf to cover up for the fact that they were defeated. Trump got nada.

The deal he cut boils down to this: He gave up the $5.7 billion wall-money ransom he'd sought and the hostage he'd taken — his own government's operations — in exchange for Democrats agreeing to participate in a "conference committee," which is the legislative equivalent of a firing squad for his wall.

He did gain one more thing he probably didn't want — a lesson in messing with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. She stared him down over the border wall, the five-week partial government shutdown and the question of who decides whether and when he can deliver a State of the Union address to a joint session of Congress...

[zsn]

The bottom line is that he just lost "shutdown" as a weapon. From now on, any threat of a shutdown would be met with a polite guffaw! Other than messing with people's lives for 5 weeks, absolutely nothing was accomplished. Actually one thing was accomplished: more people got to see what an incompetent buffoon Trump was, and McConnell didn't help himself either. He basically agreed to the same thing that was on the table 5 weeks ago.

[Deleted User 75]

Hopefully this is the last time a shutdown is used as a weapon... it's disgraceful.

Hopefully politicians from both sides can show some compromise over the next 3 weeks and make some progress. Doubt it'll happen though.

[Deleted User 89]

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2 ... -problems/

[Deleted User 89]

#winning

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/governme ... 56737.html

[jhawks99]

Hopefully this is the last time a shutdown is used as a weapon... it's disgraceful.

Hopefully politicians from both sides can show some compromise over the next 3 weeks and make some progress. Doubt it'll happen though.

I'm curious as to how you think Pelosi should have handled this? Ohh, trump is hurting people with his shut down, we better capitulate and give him his money for an ineffective and stupid wall? Then he comes up with the next hair brained idea and threatens to do the same thing all over again.

[zsn]

Hopefully this is the last time a shutdown is used as a weapon... it's disgraceful.

Yes. Blunting the shutdown-weapon is the most important lesson from this episode. This is the case of the proverbial dog chasing after the car catching the car. "You got the shutdown, now what?!?!" This should be a lesson to the Ann Coulters and Rush Limbaughs of the world. Barking and running after every passing car is easy......actually having solutions is hard.

I hope that the right-wing MAGA crowd will finally shut the f!C!< about The Wall unless they have in their hand a certified check for USD50 billion from Mexico.

[twocoach]

It ain't ova till it's ova. Trump may still declare the natl. emergency, so there.

So there? That would be political suicide for him. Which branch of the military is he going to steal that momey from? Dems would freaking love it if he tried to pull that nonsense.

[dolomite]

The bottom line is that he just lost "shutdown" as a weapon. From now on, any threat of a shutdown would be met with a polite guffaw! Other than messing with people's lives for 5 weeks, absolutely nothing was accomplished. Actually one thing was accomplished: more people got to see what an incompetent buffoon Trump was, and McConnell didn't help himself either. He basically agreed to the same thing that was on the table 5 weeks ago.

What do all those fails have to do with anything currently? NOTHING!
Am I gonna have to list all of his accomplishments as President?

[Deleted User 62]

It's disgusting that this is what this was about for many of you. At least we know where you stand. You don't get to criticize him for reopening it AND get to act as if you genuinely cared about the well being of the federal workers. Kind of sad honestly.

It's not "what it was about" for us. We're making fun of him for agreeing to the exact same deal he turned down 35 days ago. Dont be a dipshit.

Like he had a choice.

He put himself there.

[Deleted User 62]

The bottom line is that he just lost "shutdown" as a weapon. From now on, any threat of a shutdown would be met with a polite guffaw! Other than messing with people's lives for 5 weeks, absolutely nothing was accomplished. Actually one thing was accomplished: more people got to see what an incompetent buffoon Trump was, and McConnell didn't help himself either. He basically agreed to the same thing that was on the table 5 weeks ago.

What do all those fails have to do with anything currently? NOTHING!
Am I gonna have to list all of his accomplishments as President?

2 SCOTUS appointments?
Whoever was President was going to get those.