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[ousdahl]

[randylahey]

So pretty conclusively.. the vaccine mandates.. the lockdowns.. all that shit was unnecessary. Our economy is still trying to recover. Everyone got covid anyways. I had family we were worried about, in their 80s with cancer. They couldn't afford to get covid. One got covid and recovered. Both have died since and both died from cancer, not covid

[KUTradition]

They couldn't afford to get covid. One got covid and recovered.

[randylahey]

They couldn't afford to get covid. One got covid and recovered.

You made yourself look like a dumbass by not understanding. Let me translate so you can understand. They "couldn't afford" to get covid. My grandmother had stage 4 cancer in her mid 80s. On paper that's the kind of person that we were supposed to be protecting. Because she stood no chance against the virus. She got covid. Had mild symptoms. Recovered. Which is a good example of how badly we overreacted to covid

[KUTradition]

They couldn't afford to get covid. One got covid and recovered.

You made yourself look like a dumbass by not understanding. Let me translate so you can understand. They "couldn't afford" to get covid. My grandmother had stage 4 cancer in her mid 80s. On paper that's the kind of person that we were supposed to be protecting. Because she stood no chance against the virus. She got covid. Had mild symptoms. Recovered. Which is a good example of how badly we overreacted to covid

you’re an idiot

if she recovered, then by your own logic she could afford to get covid

i’m sorry you lost both of them

[randylahey]

They couldn't afford to get covid. One got covid and recovered.

You made yourself look like a dumbass by not understanding. Let me translate so you can understand. They "couldn't afford" to get covid. My grandmother had stage 4 cancer in her mid 80s. On paper that's the kind of person that we were supposed to be protecting. Because she stood no chance against the virus. She got covid. Had mild symptoms. Recovered. Which is a good example of how badly we overreacted to covid

you’re an idiot

if she recovered, then by your own logic she could afford to get covid

i’m sorry you lost both of them

So then by your logic people in their 80s with terminal cancer can afford to get covid?

[randylahey]

KUTradition just accidentally admitted covid was never that serious everybody

[KUTradition]

lol

keep swinging

[Deleted User 863]

Randy has been sucked into the Trad trap.

Spit the hook out Randy!

[randylahey]

Randy has been sucked into the Trad trap.

Spit the hook out Randy!

Uno reverse. He knew damn well what I meant to begin with and was trying to give me shit. When he doubled down on it he was saying that covid wasn't really a threat to even elderly cancer patients lol.

So covid clearly wasn't a big deal

[randylahey]

KUtradition i am a fan of the dr Steve brule image tho so I am not mad about your attempt to give me shit lol

[PhDhawk]

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... 6/fulltext

Based on official reported COVID-19 deaths, we estimated that vaccinations prevented 14·4 million (95% credible interval [Crl] 13·7–15·9) deaths from COVID-19 in 185 countries and territories between Dec 8, 2020, and Dec 8, 2021. This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95% Crl 19·1–20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during the first year of COVID-19 vaccination.

[randylahey]

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... 6/fulltext

Based on official reported COVID-19 deaths, we estimated that vaccinations prevented 14·4 million (95% credible interval [Crl] 13·7–15·9) deaths from COVID-19 in 185 countries and territories between Dec 8, 2020, and Dec 8, 2021. This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95% Crl 19·1–20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during the first year of COVID-19 vaccination.

Ignoring the fact that its impossible to accurately estimate that in a world with unlimited variables... how many of those 15-20 million "saved lives" died anyways just not from covid?

A lot. Guarantee it. Cause it was the vulnerable that were dying from covid anyways. It's good to be able to make up numbers to try to justify/cover up your actions tho

Cute article tho

[PhDhawk]

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamane ... le/2793913

COVID-19 vaccination was estimated to prevent approximately 27 million (95% uncertainty interval [UI], 22 million to 34 million) infections, 1.6 million (95% UI, 1.4 million to 1.8 million) hospitalizations, and 235 000 (95% UI, 175 000–305 000) deaths in the US from December 1, 2020, to September 30, 2021, among vaccinated adults 18 years or older. From September 1 to September 30, 2021, vaccination was estimated to prevent 52% (95% UI, 45%–62%) of expected infections, 56% (95% UI, 52%-62%) of expected hospitalizations, and 58% (95% UI, 53%-63%) of expected deaths in adults 18 years or older.

[ousdahl]

“A fact is information minus emotion.

An opinion is information plus experience.

Ignorance is an opinion lacking information.

And, stupidity is an opinion that ignores a fact.”

[zsn]

Among other areas, randy is an expert in epidemiology also. Obviously he’s more knowledgeable than the authors or the peer reviewers. Who knew!!

[StayCurious]

KUTradition just accidentally admitted covid was never that serious everybody

Why waste your keystrokes with this person? They clearly have no good intentions of having an honest discussion about anything.

[randylahey]

Phd loves posting these statistics that focuses on the 1 percent exception of the population. Its cute. Because it ignores the other 99 percent of what's happening in the ignore. The 99 percent that never needed a covid shot.

Its pretty ignorant to ignore 99 percent of the data and focus your study on 1 percent of something and act like its proven something

[ousdahl]

remember when we only had to deal with this shit in the Petri dish thread?

moving right along...

[PhDhawk]

https://pubs.asahq.org/monitor/article/ ... aved-Lives

It has been estimated that the median hospital cost in the U.S. for a patient with COVID-19 is $12,000 (J Med Econ 2021;24:308-17). The economic savings from fewer hospitalizations is roughly $13.6 billion. Long COVID affects one- to two-thirds of hospitalized patients (JAMA Netw Open 2021;4:e2128568). Vaccination averted at least 100,000 cases of long COVID, sparing individuals, and the health care system, the burdens of sustained neurologic impairment, respiratory disorders, psychiatric illness, and impaired mobility and function