Conspiracies

[zsn]

How goddamn stupid it is to be playing gotcha games based on things that were basically well-reasoned guesses…on March 8, 2020.
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It is also plainly true that addled rubes, goosed on by bad-faith puppeteer-profiteers, are compensating for insecurities and vulnerabilities by becoming vectors not for Covid, but for evidence-light (even evidence-less) conspiracy theories.

Nailed it. As I mentioned elsewhere, it’s a feature of Grievance Politics (TM). Unfortunately, in this situation Science happened publicly and those without experience or expertise latched on to every charlatan peddling his/her brand of Grievance. Obviously, even now many are unable to distinguish between good-faith science and malice.

[StayCurious]

It is simply INCONTROVERTIBLY TRUE that, on a high level, masking is better than not masking. That, on a high level, the vaccines we have are better than no vaccines.

This would only be true if either of them worked.

[pdub]

They both do.

[StayCurious]

Yeah, they've done a great job of stopping covid. lol

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

It is simply INCONTROVERTIBLY TRUE that, on a high level, masking is better than not masking. That, on a high level, the vaccines we have are better than no vaccines.

This would only be true if either of them worked.

Yet if you are Lobster, you had no problem selling worthless masks (at a "premium") to your in-laws.
You know because as you said, "We helped get masks to people who NEEDED them".

JFC!

[pdub]

Yeah, they've done a great job of stopping covid. lol

You're a moran.

[pdub]

KU shoots 40% from 3 but looses in a close game where they were big underdogs.
StayCurious, "3 point shot doesn't work."
"Yes it does."
"Sure worked for us last game! lol!"

[randylahey]

Somewhere this weekend a couple millenials wore masks to get drinks on their date. Then at the end of the night they ate eachothers ass

[pdub]

Link?
On second thought, no, no link.

[jfish26]

Yeah, they've done a great job of stopping covid. lol

Seatbelts have done a great job of stopping car wreck deaths. lol

Building codes have done a great job of stopping earthquake deaths. lol

Sunscreen has done a great job of stopping skin cancer deaths. lol

Background checks have done a great job of stopping gun violence deaths. lol

Condoms have done a great job of stopping AIDS deaths. lol

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The sort of "store-brand Rugged Individualist" Halloween costume that Lobby and his fellow rubes dress up in every single day - like how my toddler puts on princess costumes just for fun, calendar be damned - is why we're so deeply and truly fucked by climate change.

There does not exist, in this most wealthy and privileged of nations, anything approaching the collective will that is necessary - NOW, not in three hundred or three thousand years - to preserve our way of life.

[defixione]

Yeah, they've done a great job of stopping covid. lol

Seatbelts have done a great job of stopping car wreck deaths. lol

Building codes have done a great job of stopping earthquake deaths. lol

Sunscreen has done a great job of stopping skin cancer deaths. lol

Background checks have done a great job of stopping gun violence deaths. lol

Condoms have done a great job of stopping AIDS deaths. lol

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The sort of "store-brand Rugged Individualist" Halloween costume that Lobby and his fellow rubes dress up in every single day - like how my toddler puts on princess costumes just for fun, calendar be damned - is why we're so deeply and truly fucked by climate change.

There does not exist, in this most wealthy and privileged of nations, anything approaching the collective will that is necessary - NOW, not in three hundred or three thousand years - to preserve our way of life.

Bam.



Ouch.

[StayCurious]

All those things actually work. Masks are like putting a fence in your yard to stop mosquitoes. And the jabs, well... we all know they are not real vaccines. You're better off with vitamin C & D in high dosage.

But at least he was right about Kyle Rittenhouse going to prison.

[DrPepper]

This (one of the reasons) other countries hate US. Other countries do care and have made collective actions years ago. One of the reasons we like to vacation in Western Europe is because the cities are walkable and the public transportation pretty damn good. They are not perfect, but they are conscious and way better than we are. Stuff like hi efficiency cloths washers and hanging laundry are normal in most places.

[jfish26]

This (one of the reasons) other countries hate US. Other countries do care and have made collective actions years ago. One of the reasons we like to vacation in Western Europe is because the cities are walkable and the public transportation pretty damn good. They are not perfect, but they are conscious and way better than we are. Stuff like hi efficiency cloths washers and hanging laundry are normal in most places.

And glass over plastic. Everywhere, always.

Not to mention universal healthcare, healthy work/life balance, sensible attitudes toward drinking/drugs/sex work, and many other things.

There is of course a lot of privilege to this - foreign travel ain't cheap, in dollars or time - but I'd guess a great many MAGA types have not spent meaningful time abroad.

[defixione]

They've seen Europe on TV and YouTube, though, so they're prepared to answer any questions.

[pdub]

All those things actually work. Masks are like putting a fence in your yard to stop mosquitoes. And the jabs, well... we all know they are not real vaccines. You're better off with vitamin C & D in high dosage.

Still a Moran.

[jfish26]

All those things actually work. Masks are like putting a fence in your yard to stop mosquitoes. And the jabs, well... we all know they are not real vaccines. You're better off with vitamin C & D in high dosage.

But at least he was right about Kyle Rittenhouse going to prison.

It is INSANE to me that people are so stupid (or so willingly misleading) to still say things like this.

When reasonable people say masks work - because they DO work - it is because masks are pretty good (remarkably good, really, given the costs involved) at preventing Person A from getting Person B sick. Any incremental preventive benefit to Person A is a plus, but Person A's health is simply not the point.

But someone who simply does not believe that Person A has any responsibility at all for Person B would of course not have capacity for understanding this sort of basic idea of collective good. And that person should not be taken seriously when the adults are talking.

And please do show me where I said Rittenhouse would go to prison. There is no doubt - under the law and for purposes of basic common sense - that he should have gone to prison. If I said he would, then I'm the idiot I guess for having even a baseline degree of optimism in our ability to prosecute criminals.

[DCHawk1]

I'm tempted to say that this thread took an unexpected and high-larious turn, but since that would imply that the turn was both unexpected and high-larious, I'll refrain.

[ousdahl]

I’ve been waiting to make this point, but since this thread might be almost there anyway…

If Merica ever did get any kind of actual systemic reform, if not some sorta full-blown revolution, we citizens of this greatest country in the history of greatness can all rest assured that the revolution is a bajillion times more likely to be ushered in by Randy and lobster, than by Qusdahl.

Enjoy the rugged individualism! Preserve this way of life no matter the cost!

#Merica

[StayCurious]

JFish, you can live in your fantasy world. It reminds me this dude I saw at Trader Joes last week who put his 2 year old girl in a mask. Some customers were looking at this guy wondering what the hell he was thinking. Poor girl, gonna grow up with that kind of ignorant parent. As Leana Wen pointed out, masks harmed her child's speech development. They are not completely free of risks, although far safer than the vaccine. But totally unnecessary and useless. Children are at almost no risk from covid.

The Rittenhouse thing, I'm just pointing out that you should have known better. You're in the legal field, and you didn't even get that right. Reminds me of someone else on here who has a phd.