Rupp Rafters Meltdown

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it’s often said, that if someone is shooting that high of a percentage from deep then they should be shooting more

i think DH’s numbers will come down and average out a bit, but until they do i’ve got no problem with him taking them when open and within the offense
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Mjl wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:47 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:38 pm
KUTradition wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:25 pm
he’s gotten confident enough to take the shots he’s been getting left open for over the past couple years…and then some
He took 5 in the first half against WVU, though. Let's dial that back a tad.

Hopefully he will start to keep the defenses more honest, though.
As long as he's hitting 50%, I have no problem with the volume
Alright, but let's talk on this planet. You could make that same statement about any player.
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KUTradition wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:50 pm it’s often said, that if someone is shooting that high of a percentage from deep then they should be shooting more

i think DH’s numbers will come down and average out a bit, but until they do i’ve got no problem with him taking them when open and within the offense
They're almost never within the offense. But, that's probably when he should shoot them. He gets so open because the defenses shade the other side of the floor and play off him to keep him out of the paint.

If there's 10-ish seconds left and he gets the ball on a reversal and he finds himself open like that, that's when he should confidently shoot and keep the defense honest. That would help open up our 3 main scorers.
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We've had this conversation about other guys, including (most recently) Garrett.

It is critical that Harris takes open threes, particularly early in games. Getting the defense to actually cover him unlocks so much by way of spacing.
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jfish26 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:53 pmWe've had this conversation about other guys,
Sadly so.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:02 pm
jfish26 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:53 pmWe've had this conversation about other guys,
Sadly so.
That said, we have in a single guy the karmic reward for putting up with so many heavy-minutes non-shooters...
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jfish26 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:10 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:02 pm
jfish26 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:53 pmWe've had this conversation about other guys,
Sadly so.
That said, we have in a single guy the karmic reward for putting up with so many heavy-minutes non-shooters...
Speaking of someone that needs to shoot . . .
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jfish26 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:53 pm It is critical that Harris takes open threes, particularly early in games. Getting the defense to actually cover him unlocks so much by way of spacing.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:53 pm
KUTradition wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:50 pm it’s often said, that if someone is shooting that high of a percentage from deep then they should be shooting more

i think DH’s numbers will come down and average out a bit, but until they do i’ve got no problem with him taking them when open and within the offense
They're almost never within the offense. But, that's probably when he should shoot them. He gets so open because the defenses shade the other side of the floor and play off him to keep him out of the paint.

If there's 10-ish seconds left and he gets the ball on a reversal and he finds himself open like that, that's when he should confidently shoot and keep the defense honest. That would help open up our 3 main scorers.
eh…not sure i agree with the bolded, but maybe i’m not paying keen enough attention
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it’s a bit semantic, but imo the ball reversal that leaves DH open IS part of the offense (unless it’s a very obvious broken play sort of situation)

contrast that with Yes taking early, contested 3s that seem to almost always happen before an offensive set even gets established

but again, i’m not gonna claim to have the most analytical eye while watching
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:50 pm
Mjl wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:47 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:38 pm

He took 5 in the first half against WVU, though. Let's dial that back a tad.

Hopefully he will start to keep the defenses more honest, though.
As long as he's hitting 50%, I have no problem with the volume
Alright, but let's talk on this planet. You could make that same statement about any player.
Yes, yes I would.
He even hit one off the dribble last game. 6 attempts a game seems reasonable until he shows otherwise
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On the other hand the part I like about Dajuan's hesitancy (until the last couple games) to shoot threes in the first 20 seconds of the shot clock is that he's so good at running the offense and getting someone a quality shot either with an assist or hockey assist. He runs the offense with such purpose, getting guys in the right place and controlling everything. It's one of the biggest strengths of this team and early shots can negate that.
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KUTradition wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:33 pm it’s a bit semantic, but imo the ball reversal that leaves DH open IS part of the offense (unless it’s a very obvious broken play sort of situation)

contrast that with Yes taking early, contested 3s that seem to almost always happen before an offensive set even gets established

but again, i’m not gonna claim to have the most analytical eye while watching
Merely meant we're not running plays for a Dajuan shot, nor are we reversing the ball, setting screens to get him open for a shot like we do on the backside for Gradey. So many of Dajuan's threes are after our options A & B aren't there.

And, my bigger beef with Yesufu is when he, inexplicably, doesn't shoot the ball when wide open and the clock is ticking. Other than Dajuan, our development of the guards just hasn't been there. Need to watch that.
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Mjl wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:39 pm On the other hand the part I like about Dajuan's hesitancy (until the last couple games) to shoot threes in the first 20 seconds of the shot clock is that he's so good at running the offense and getting someone a quality shot either with an assist or hockey assist. He runs the offense with such purpose, getting guys in the right place and controlling everything. It's one of the biggest strengths of this team and early shots can negate that.
Agree, :20 is too early. His shot is looking better, but in no way should he go away from his first option, which is his unique ability to keep the dribble alive and find/create easy baskets for us. Without it, our halfcourt offense would be truly atrocious.
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Rumor here is Cal to Texas
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his buyout is insane. One of Texas or UK would have to bring Loomis to the meeting.
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jhawks99 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:40 pm Rumor here is Cal to Texas
LOL.

Not a chance.

Why would he downgrade jobs? Kentucky is a superior basketball school. One of the top 3 or 4 head coaching jobs in the country.

Kentucky fans are so stupid.
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Likely not but it’d probably be nice to go to a place where he feels wanted.
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likely not but it'd probably be nice to go to a place where can get away with mediocrity and no one cares.
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 7:18 am likely not but it'd probably be nice to go to a place where can get away with mediocrity and no one cares.
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