Don't forget to factor in the environmental, health and economic damages done by oil spills on land and in our waterways worldwide.TDub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:25 pm when it is known that lithium mining is as bad for the earth as oil drilling, that the battery recycling is (at this point) as much of a scam as plastic recycling,
that our grid still needs oil and coal to charge the electric vehicles .....are we going to go after the electric car execs too?
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the electric car industry is not really meant to save the environment, so much as it is meant to save the car industry.
if we really wanna stop being "bad for the earth," it's gonna take less consumer consumption, and more willing lifestyle changes (maybe it's not sustainable for everyone to drive their own individual vehicle everywhere), and the correlated systemic changes (better public transit, high-speed rail networks, work-remote whenever permitted, walk or bike or other alternative transport options whenever possible)
also prob just a matter of time til, like all our wars over oil, we get wars over lithium too.
if we really wanna stop being "bad for the earth," it's gonna take less consumer consumption, and more willing lifestyle changes (maybe it's not sustainable for everyone to drive their own individual vehicle everywhere), and the correlated systemic changes (better public transit, high-speed rail networks, work-remote whenever permitted, walk or bike or other alternative transport options whenever possible)
also prob just a matter of time til, like all our wars over oil, we get wars over lithium too.
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“We live today in a world of interlocking crises, each illustrating the unwillingness of leaders to act in the true long-term interests of their people,” said Mary Robinson, former president of Ireland and former United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights.
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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exxon mobile and shell posting record profits…lol
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So…. That’s partly one reason why we’re headed for stormier, hotter years ahead.
Originally Imzcount (Why do politicians think “hope” is a plan ?)
“Avoid the foolish notion of hope. Hope is the surrender of authority to your fate and trusting it to the whims of the wind”.
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“Avoid the foolish notion of hope. Hope is the surrender of authority to your fate and trusting it to the whims of the wind”.
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Bidens’ fault
"The truth is obtained like gold, not by letting it grow bigger, but by washing off from it everything that isn’t gold.” Tolstoy
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Ohio crews conduct a 'controlled release' of toxic chemicals from derailed train cars
https://www.npr.org/2023/02/06/11547609 ... derailment
https://www.npr.org/2023/02/06/11547609 ... derailment
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Another reason to have oil transported via safer pipelines. Will the next GOP administration reapprove the Keystone XL?
Originally Imzcount (Why do politicians think “hope” is a plan ?)
“Avoid the foolish notion of hope. Hope is the surrender of authority to your fate and trusting it to the whims of the wind”.
Taylor Sheridan
“Avoid the foolish notion of hope. Hope is the surrender of authority to your fate and trusting it to the whims of the wind”.
Taylor Sheridan
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actually, the stuff being transported was vinyl chloride, some toxic/carcinogenic chemical that, when burned, also releases/converts to hydrochloric acid
or something.
kinda crazy but it may have been less toxic if it WAS just an oil spill
or something.
kinda crazy but it may have been less toxic if it WAS just an oil spill
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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not wrong, and likely understated, imoousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:53 pm
if we really wanna stop being "bad for the earth," it's gonna take less consumer consumption, and more willing lifestyle changes (maybe it's not sustainable for everyone to drive their own individual vehicle everywhere), and the correlated systemic changes (better public transit, high-speed rail networks, work-remote whenever permitted, walk or bike or other alternative transport options whenever possible)
Please, I implore you to be reasonable...
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https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/diet ... per-capita
https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/the-u ... d-use-map/
https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/the-u ... d-use-map/
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been leaking since November?
smh
smh
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Close the Mississippi River, so upstream from....1/3 of the country?
I only came to kick some ass...
Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.