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TDub wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:38 am He isn't a leader, he's not a trendsetter, he's nothing but a party line toeing, follower.
Remember the time that Obama was so bold on the same-gender marriage issue that he had to drag Biden kicking and screaming?

Me neither.
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Trump, no way, Pete, no way, Biden No-No way.
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zsn wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:18 pm
TDub wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:38 am He isn't a leader, he's not a trendsetter, he's nothing but a party line toeing, follower.
Remember the time that Obama was so bold on the same-gender marriage issue that he had to drag Biden kicking and screaming?

Me neither.
you asked for my why?....I gave it.

Do with the information what you will.
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I don’t disagree with the rest of your assessment but generally it’s very unfair characterization. Biden was ahead and a leader on many issues

Would I prefer someone else? Certainly. But in no way is Biden in the same bucket as the Republican field. At least he actually wants to help people.
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zsn wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:15 pm I don’t disagree with the rest of your assessment but generally it’s very unfair characterization. Biden was ahead and a leader on many issues

Would I prefer someone else? Certainly. But in no way is Biden in the same bucket as the Republican field. At least he actually wants to help people.
Is that what they call being “woke”?
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zsn wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:18 pm
TDub wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:38 am He isn't a leader, he's not a trendsetter, he's nothing but a party line toeing, follower.
Remember the time that Obama was so bold on the same-gender marriage issue that he had to drag Biden kicking and screaming?

Me neither.
Remember when he voted for a measure outlawing same sex marriage in the 90s?

Or against desegregation in the 70s?

not a leader.
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she should throw her hat in the ring.
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ousdahl wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:19 am
Almost as unsurprising as the impending announcement of DeSantis. I think she appeals more to the non-Trumpers of the GOP so it will be interesting to see how she does. It would be amusing if Trump and DeSantis split the Trumper votes and Haley ended up beating them both.
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Re: “the non-Trumpers of the GOP,” I’ve suggested before that she may have issues of electability once the birthers find out her real name is Nimrata.
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i’ve got my popcorn ready for the insults trump throws her way
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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If it's between Desantis, Trump, and Haley, I take Haley
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ousdahl wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:40 am Re: “the non-Trumpers of the GOP,” I’ve suggested before that she may have issues of electability once the birthers find out her real name is Nimrata.
My guess is that there are more Trumpers in the GOP who care about such a thing than non-Trumper GOP voters.
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Mjl wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:05 am If it's between Desantis, Trump, and Haley, I take Haley
Although her and I have the same chance of winning the nomination
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Mjl wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:05 am If it's between Desantis, Trump, and Haley…………
…………..it would constitute evidence of the utter destruction of the Republican Party. It would be the famous profile of primate evolution but in reverse.

Lincoln………Reagan………..W………..Trump……….
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twocoach wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:23 am
ousdahl wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:40 am Re: “the non-Trumpers of the GOP,” I’ve suggested before that she may have issues of electability once the birthers find out her real name is Nimrata.
My guess is that there are more Trumpers in the GOP who care about such a thing than non-Trumper GOP voters.
yea, I coulda phrased that better.

either way, far more birthers/Trumpers in the GOP than the GOP cares to admit
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you seem to have an issue with her heritage. why.
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bro I'm not among those worried about seeing birth certificates and such
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yet you keep bringing up her ancestry.

she is very popular. maybe that is why you are attempting to besmirch her.
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