Vick
- ChalkRocker
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Re: Vick
tough, tough night.
hope we win.
that'd show some grit.
hope we win.
that'd show some grit.
Please, I implore you to be reasonable...
- CrimsonNBlue
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Which would be majorly helped by having a leader.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:40 pm Leadership. LOL. we need better fucking players who can actually play together and not like 5 individuals.
Obvious guys like Seniors Mason and Graham would not allow this to happen: 0 confidence, 0 energy and they are having 0 fun.
But, even if this team had a Senior Miles, Senior Tyshawn, Senior Releford, Senior Collins--this wouldn't be happening. Self's not an idiot, he knows a big ingredient is missing.
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Sure leadership is missing. But elite players are also missing.
Self is paid enough that he should be the fucking leader since he hasn't recruited a leader. Expecting Vick to be the leader? LOL we've got 3 years of evidence that says that's not reality. Dedric? Punched mitch in the nose 2 week into his time at KU....that doesn't scream natural leader to me.
This year is on Self...Vick was never meant to be a #2 option and "leader" of a team.
I'm not giving up. There's a lot of ways to have a successful season in college basketball. We can still win conference. We still control our own destiny.
Self is paid enough that he should be the fucking leader since he hasn't recruited a leader. Expecting Vick to be the leader? LOL we've got 3 years of evidence that says that's not reality. Dedric? Punched mitch in the nose 2 week into his time at KU....that doesn't scream natural leader to me.
This year is on Self...Vick was never meant to be a #2 option and "leader" of a team.
I'm not giving up. There's a lot of ways to have a successful season in college basketball. We can still win conference. We still control our own destiny.
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Ya. If dedric and Dotson don't come back we could be in big trouble.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:03 pmBill's kicking himself for that one.
But Bill really mismanaged the GM aspect of his job for the 18, 19 and 20 seasons.
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Because? NCAA?
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- ChalkRocker
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Yeah. I get that, too.
Same as the last 2' of the UK game. He finally showed up.
Same as the last 2' of the UK game. He finally showed up.
Please, I implore you to be reasonable...
Re: Vick
If we mean Bills kicking himself because he thinks he could have gotten Langford instead of Vick, fair.
But once Langford was out of the equation and Vick wanted back, I don’t think he’s kicking himself for that—I know you don’t like the kid but he’s won us games and he’s not our biggest problem by any means.
But once Langford was out of the equation and Vick wanted back, I don’t think he’s kicking himself for that—I know you don’t like the kid but he’s won us games and he’s not our biggest problem by any means.
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Frustrating and embarrassing. At one point we were ranked 1st. One day you're steak, next day you're beans.
Originally Imzcount (Why do politicians think “hope” is a plan ?)
“Avoid the foolish notion of hope. Hope is the surrender of authority to your fate and trusting it to the whims of the wind”.
Taylor Sheridan
“Avoid the foolish notion of hope. Hope is the surrender of authority to your fate and trusting it to the whims of the wind”.
Taylor Sheridan
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Only indirectly I guess. But just look at the roster. Assuming no surprise returns, it’s just...a lot like this one, minus Vick and Dedric and plus nothing of immediate impact.
- CrimsonNBlue
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Plus Agbaji would be that much further along and he’s not a complete headache.TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:10 am i really wonder if we’d be that much worse without vick
it’s easy to say yes, but it’s no telling how Grimes might have developed performance-wise, and how both he and Dotson might have been able to slide into more effective leadership roles, had vick not come back