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NewtonHawk11 · Post by **NewtonHawk11** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:14 am

West Va 21!?

They're freaking 12-8 and 2-6 in conference play. Have played home against Baylor, KU, Texas and TCU and went 1-3 against those teams. Goodness. What are we doing here?

Deleted User 863 · Post by **Deleted User 863** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:21 am

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:14 am West Va 21!?

They're freaking 12-8 and 2-6 in conference play. Have played home against Baylor, KU, Texas and TCU and went 1-3 against those teams. Goodness. What are we doing here?

Wonder if the big12 teams get a an advantage within the formulas because we have a small conference and play everyone twice?

Post by **pdub** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:36 am

Well, yes, but only if all teams in said conference are decent to elite.
If you have two or three bottom feeders, like other conferences do, that would f things up, but we don't.
( i.e. a Nebraska or Mississippi )

In West Virginia's particular case, they have one of the worst Luck rankings in Kenpom, meaning if you look at their strength of schedule and compare it to their points for and against, they should statistically have a better record than they have. This is probably bolstered from a few close looses to some good B12 teams.

I've always said the NCAA tournament is not the greatest at determining the best team but is the most entertaining. In the past, the JimWest's of the world would chuckle at the B12 not doing well in the tournament, which was all sorts of eye roll for me. Now he has no legs to stand on as there have been B12 teams in every Final Four since 2018 and two ( three ) champions.

Deleted User 863 · Post by **Deleted User 863** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:34 pm

3 champions?

CrimsonNBlue · Post by **CrimsonNBlue** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:51 pm

1 NCAA Champion
1 NCAA Champion*
1 AP Title Winner

Post by **pdub** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:58 pm

^^^^

Illy is foaming at the mouth.

Deleted User 863 · Post by **Deleted User 863** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:15 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:51 pm 1 AP Title Winner

Gotcha. I am not familiar with that one.

Post by **TDub** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:56 pm

Texas Tech shouldve won that Title too

Post by **pdub** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:05 pm

Another example of frame by frame slow motion instant replay out of control.

Post by **pdub** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:22 pm

KU 8
ksu 7

Top 10 matchup tomorrow.

NewtonHawk11 · Post by **NewtonHawk11** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:37 pm

On ESPN+. YAYAYAYAYAYA

ousdahl · Post by **ousdahl** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:41 pm

Top 10 matchup on the plus lol.

I guess that’s cuz when they schedule these things, the kitties were still perceived as a dumpster fire?

I’m still not convinced they’re actually as good as their ranking suggests tho.

Also when was the last time KU looses a game but goes up in the rankings the next week?

Normally that treatment is only reserved for teams that loose to KU, not the other way around

CrimsonNBlue · Post by **CrimsonNBlue** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:56 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:41 pmI’m still not convinced they’re actually as good as their ranking suggests tho.

Kansas State (+7) @ Kansas

Post by **jfish26** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:04 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:56 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:41 pmI’m still not convinced they’re actually as good as their ranking suggests tho.
Kansas State (+7) @ Kansas

God that's a big number.

NewtonHawk11 · Post by **NewtonHawk11** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:08 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:56 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:41 pmI’m still not convinced they’re actually as good as their ranking suggests tho.
Kansas State (+7) @ Kansas

Goodness that is a massive line. (I think kstate covers)

ousdahl · Post by **ousdahl** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:08 pm

It just feels weird thinking the kitties with a brand new coach are gonna end up like a 2 or 3 seed.

NewtonHawk11 · Post by **NewtonHawk11** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:09 pm

I mean, he basically flipped that entire roster.

CBB is much easier to have a season like this compared to any other collegiate sport. You really need about 7 damn good players and you'll be fine. He kept Nowell and that was about it and everybody else is new.

CrimsonNBlue · Post by **CrimsonNBlue** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:13 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:04 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:56 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:41 pmI’m still not convinced they’re actually as good as their ranking suggests tho.
Kansas State (+7) @ Kansas
God that's a big number.

I would have said that KU -5 sounds right. I think we're a couple points better on a neutral floor.

CrimsonNBlue · Post by **CrimsonNBlue** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:15 pm

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:09 pm I mean, he basically flipped that entire roster.

CBB is much easier to have a season like this compared to any other collegiate sport. You really need about 7 damn good players and you'll be fine. He kept Nowell and that was about it and everybody else is new.

You also have 350 teams to choose from to make a cupcake noncon to help develop your players.

Post by **pdub** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:19 pm

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:08 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:56 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:41 pmI’m still not convinced they’re actually as good as their ranking suggests tho.
Kansas State (+7) @ Kansas
Goodness that is a massive line. (I think kstate covers)

I don't.
I'm going KU in a classic kitties beatdown.

Kansas Crimson

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