Finding New Shit on TV

[DCHawk1]

netflix is free to do whatever they would like. i think they are mistaken if they think they are going to add subscribers with this move. and maybe that is not their intention. i don't know.

i'm not paying for it.

No one cares

[DCHawk1]

all your blubbering and blathering aside. i already pay enough for television entertainment. i'm not going to pay anymore. simple as that.

No one cares.

[DCHawk1]

Re: near universal disdain, was anyone cheering on Lars when Metallica’s lawyers came after Napster?

Actually, yea I guess. The other night beav mentioned his mom got pissed back in the day when he was “stealing” Metallica songs off the internet. (lol ya right Beav you’re way too dorky for Metallica you were downloading Hansen weren’t ya?)

But if we can pretty much all agree public libraries are a good thing, I wonder if we could ever get to the point we could just all collectively be able to enjoy the arts as some sorta public resource, rather than having to fuss about some private bidness’s decision to weed out freeloaders? What if access to Napster (or similar streaming service) was included with your library card? Nah, it’s better our tax dollars keep buying bombs instead.

And just wondering out loud now, but, at what point does it count as freeloading? Like, what if the next policy is that a mom watching movies has to pay a separate Netflix fee if the kids are watching cartoons on another device in the same room?

Or is that already a thing? I dunno. Fortunately Beav and I tend to agree on which cartoons to watch.

A to unpack, but a public library card does give you access to streaming services apps, including movies and music, and a la carte music albums. You should go check your local branch's website out.

If you're sharing passwords with people that aren't in your household, that's where freeloading starts for me. Netflix has almost always charged more to stream from multiple devices rather than 1. A lot of live streaming apps are the same. We've accepted that for awhile.

Why shouldn't the content creators be compensated? This goes for the local jam bands you've been stealing from, too.

Who would ever have guessed that Ousie hates (intellectual) property rights?

[japhy]

But maybe it’s a matter of getting more idiots like me

no, no, that's not gonna make anything better

[PhDhawk]

What am I missing here? They want to prevent password sharing, so, what's the problem? Who's upset by this other than people who weren't paying for a subscription?

I'm more upset when they raise prices, or like how I pay for Hulu but they still have commercials. Those bother me much more but never have the pushback this has gotten. I mean poor Mich is beside himself.

Is it going to make signing in more of a pain and more frequent? Because that would be annoying

[Sparko]

What am I missing here? They want to prevent password sharing, so, what's the problem? Who's upset by this other than people who weren't paying for a subscription?

I'm more upset when they raise prices, or like how I pay for Hulu but they still have commercials. Those bother me much more but never have the pushback this has gotten. I mean poor Mich is beside himself.

Is it going to make signing in more of a pain and more frequent? Because that would be annoying

Their passwords files are hacked all the time too. I was in a wave where thousands of accounts were suddenly active in Asia. I changed the logon and email quickly, but if I hadn't monitored my email may not have caught it until locked out. Really this is a security issue at heart. They are revenue challenged right now though. Need to shore up the business model

[jfish26]

What am I missing here? They want to prevent password sharing, so, what's the problem? Who's upset by this other than people who weren't paying for a subscription?

I'm more upset when they raise prices, or like how I pay for Hulu but they still have commercials. Those bother me much more but never have the pushback this has gotten. I mean poor Mich is beside himself.

Is it going to make signing in more of a pain and more frequent? Because that would be annoying

“Handouts and free stuff for me, but not for thee.”

[twocoach]

all your blubbering and blathering aside. i already pay enough for television entertainment. i'm not going to pay anymore. simple as that.

If you already pay for what you are watching then you aren't being asked to pay any more.

[ousdahl]

add “pay for a subscription but still have to see ads” to the list of things cable companies always got wrong too

[pdub]

The prices keep going up and you're loosing services.
Yes, I know, password sharing isn't really a service but we pay for Netflix and share it with our fam.
JFish is right - this really needs to be factored to the consumer - via ala carte.

I don't want 97% of the trash on Netflix.
I don't want 90% of the channels on Direct TV.

Give me a system where I pay x dollars and get credits to watch y things a month.

[PhDhawk]

The prices keep going up

I don't want 97% of the trash on Netflix.

Again...these are the things that make me upset, but didn't move the dial in the zeitgeist.

I guess if you're not paying for content, price and quality don't matter.

I just wanna know who the PR person for moderate annoyances who determines which ones go viral.

[pdub]

I think there was a boiling point as Netflix has continued to creep prices up while loosing shows and considering adding advertisements.

I'd cancel Netflix in a heartbeat if the BUD didn't have a say.

[MICHHAWK]

almost all of the original content on the streaming services is unwatchable. there is some good stuff for sure. there is some really good stuff. but most of it is unwatchable.

i already pay enough. i ain't paying more.

[jfish26]

The prices keep going up and you're loosing services.
Yes, I know, password sharing isn't really a service but we pay for Netflix and share it with our fam.
JFish is right - this really needs to be factored to the consumer - via ala carte.

I don't want 97% of the trash on Netflix.
I don't want 90% of the channels on Direct TV.

Give me a system where I pay x dollars and get credits to watch y things a month.

But there is this system. For most things that are not first-party to a streaming service, you absolutely can pay by the episode or season (on Hulu or Vudu or Apple TV or Prime TV or any number of services). The "trouble" is that the economics (to you) of doing that get upside-down pretty quickly if you like to watch more than one or two things.

[jfish26]

almost all of the original content on the streaming services is unwatchable. there is some good stuff for sure. there is some really good stuff. but most of it is unwatchable.

i already pay enough. i ain't paying more.

No one is making you, get off the cross.

[pdub]

I'd like to watch 50 CBB games, 30 NBA games, 30 NFL games ( hypothetical numbers ).
I don't want to pay for the ability to watch Nascar or women's CBB.

[DCHawk1]

almost all of the original content on the streaming services is unwatchable. there is some good stuff for sure. there is some really good stuff. but most of it is unwatchable.

i already pay enough. i ain't paying more.

Seriously.

No one cares.

[jfish26]

I'd like to watch 50 CBB games, 30 NBA games, 30 NFL games ( hypothetical numbers ).
I don't want to pay for the ability to watch Nascar or women's CBB.

There are interesting echoes of the amateurism debate here: if the person interested in paying money for college basketball does not have to subsidize other college sports in paying money for college basketball, then the knock-on effect will be the diminishment of the other college sports.

[CrimsonNBlue]

What am I missing here? They want to prevent password sharing, so, what's the problem? Who's upset by this other than people who weren't paying for a subscription?

I think there are very narrow scenarios where it could be a legitimate annoyance to some. e.g. a couple that has to live apart for a few months a year. Snowbirds that live in one place seasonally and then another. I could maybe buy a family that buys the multi-screen package then has a kid go off to her freshman year at college being upset she could not longer use it.

The last is a little close for me, but again these are very narrow scenarios that apply to few people yet it seems like so many mich's are justpissed that they can't freeload anymore.

[CrimsonNBlue]

The prices keep going up and you're loosing services.
Yes, I know, password sharing isn't really a service but we pay for Netflix and share it with our fam.
JFish is right - this really needs to be factored to the consumer - via ala carte.

I don't want 97% of the trash on Netflix.
I don't want 90% of the channels on Direct TV.

Give me a system where I pay x dollars and get credits to watch y things a month.

But there is this system. For most things that are not first-party to a streaming service, you absolutely can pay by the episode or season (on Hulu or Vudu or Apple TV or Prime TV or any number of services). The "trouble" is that the economics (to you) of doing that get upside-down pretty quickly if you like to watch more than one or two things.

But the saving grace of the streaming services is that they only lock you in for a month at a time and it only takes a click of a button to sign up and cancel. You can often find 2-4 week free trials for a lot of them, too.