Where's the Pro-Life thread?

[Deleted User 863]

Fascinating stuff! Thanks for sharing!

[ousdahl]

Fascinating stuff! Thanks for sharing!

You’re welcome!

[ousdahl]

Catholic health care's wide reach can make it hard to get birth control in many places

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... ealth-care

[ousdahl]

[Cascadia]

That’s awesome

[ousdahl]

Lindsey Graham lulz

[KUTradition]

he just picked 15 weeks…cuz, ya know…it sounded good to him

[twocoach]

he just picked 15 weeks…cuz, ya know…it sounded good to him

The GOP is reeling after the unexpected political hit from the Supreme Court gutting Roe vs. Wade. Now they are left to try to figure out a way to not lose as many voters who are completely opposed to what has been done.

"Be careful what you wish for"

[ousdahl]

sooo

got a hot take from, oh let's just say, some bisexual hippie chick at the bar.

She/her claims dems COULD codify Roe in this lame duck session if they went nuclear about it....except they won't, and they're not gonna.

Is that so? I think they'd still need 51 votes or whatever, which means getting guys like Manchin on bored, or something?

Or, couldn't Biden sign an EO to accomplish as much too?

I dunno. Mericans have never been great about actually understanding how stuff works.

[TDub]

they should codify Roe v Wade...

also stop talking to people in bars and taking that as good information.

[Mjl]

Roe vs Wade has nothing to do with budgets, they can't go "nuclear" on it

[Deleted User 863]

Roe vs Wade has nothing to do with budgets, they can't go "nuclear" on it

But saying "if they went nuclear" sounds so cool and edgy. Especially when you do it in a George Bush voice.

[ousdahl]

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[TDub]

So this is pretty funny...

During the Obama years Wyoming added an amendment that stated that competent adults could make their own health care decisions (to avoid the Obama care requirements)....

Because of that, their recent bid to ban abortion failed on the grounds it directly conflicted with the recently added amendment that stated that "competent adults could make their own health care decisions"

[Shirley]

So this is pretty funny...

During the Obama years Wyoming added an amendment that stated that competent adults could make their own health care decisions (to avoid the Obama care requirements)....

Because of that, their recent bid to ban abortion failed on the grounds it directly conflicted with the recently added amendment that stated that "competent adults could make their own health care decisions"

Once republicans decided to abandon their previous deeply held "principals" such as fiscal responsibility, limited government, personal freedom, et al., they keep running into problems with laws they previously alleged to believe in. Because, how can you possibly keep women in their place and dependent on males, i.e., barefoot and pregnant, if they're allowed to decide when and with whom they want to have children?

Less than a month ago the fascist, I mean, republican-controlled legislature in FL got rid of the "resign to run" law, which will allow DeFascist to run for president without requiring him to resign as governor, first.

Another example: Republicans used to own mail-in balloting, but once democrats started catching up and Trump needed fodder for his "rigged election" Big Lie propaganda, they're cutting back on that and a plethora of other measures that make it easier to vote, because the more people who vote, the more likely they are to lose.

[KUTradition]

So this is pretty funny...

During the Obama years Wyoming added an amendment that stated that competent adults could make their own health care decisions (to avoid the Obama care requirements)....

Because of that, their recent bid to ban abortion failed on the grounds it directly conflicted with the recently added amendment that stated that "competent adults could make their own health care decisions"

ha!

makes me wonder about the situation for trans adults

[TDub]

So this is pretty funny...

During the Obama years Wyoming added an amendment that stated that competent adults could make their own health care decisions (to avoid the Obama care requirements)....

Because of that, their recent bid to ban abortion failed on the grounds it directly conflicted with the recently added amendment that stated that "competent adults could make their own health care decisions"

ha!

makes me wonder about the situation for trans adults

well Randy insists thats trans is a mental illness....so I'm sure the powers that be will use that logic to determine that they arent competent adults.

[jfish26]

So this is pretty funny...

During the Obama years Wyoming added an amendment that stated that competent adults could make their own health care decisions (to avoid the Obama care requirements)....

Because of that, their recent bid to ban abortion failed on the grounds it directly conflicted with the recently added amendment that stated that "competent adults could make their own health care decisions"

Once republicans decided to abandon their previous deeply held "principals" such as fiscal responsibility, limited government, personal freedom, et al., they keep running into problems with laws they previously alleged to believe in. Because, how can you possibly keep women in their place and dependent on males, i.e., barefoot and pregnant, if they're allowed to decide when and with whom they want to have children?

Less than a month ago the fascist, I mean, republican-controlled legislature in FL got rid of the "resign to run" law, which will allow DeFascist to run for president without requiring him to resign as governor, first.

Another example: Republicans used to own mail-in balloting, but once democrats started catching up and Trump needed fodder for his "rigged election" Big Lie propaganda, they're cutting back on that and a plethora of other measures that make it easier to vote, because the more people who vote, the more likely they are to lose.

Of course, there's so much internal hypocrisy within pubs' own positions on abortion. A couple of my favorites come back to the sanctity of life.*

1 - If life begins at conception (such that all abortions should be banned), then logically it does not follow that exceptions should be made for rape. Incest and other medical complications present medical risks for mother and/or baby...but that's not really true in the context of rape. So, negotiating a rape exception at all sort of nukes the veneer of "seriousness" the pubs bring to the table (and makes it clear that it's about power, not principle).

2 - One would not think that a "sanctity of life" person would support the death penalty, and yet many pubs are strongly anti-abortion and pro-death-penalty (not to mention pro-vigilante-justice).

* The above examples, of course, don't even get into the MYRIAD things pubs do all the fucking time that are very anti-life, like quack public health policy, our disastrous healthcare system, environmental/climate change matters and...of course...the guns.

[jfish26]

So this is pretty funny...

During the Obama years Wyoming added an amendment that stated that competent adults could make their own health care decisions (to avoid the Obama care requirements)....

Because of that, their recent bid to ban abortion failed on the grounds it directly conflicted with the recently added amendment that stated that "competent adults could make their own health care decisions"

ha!

makes me wonder about the situation for trans adults

well Randy insists thats trans is a mental illness....so I'm sure the powers that be will use that logic to determine that they arent competent adults.

Yes. Don't think this positioning is accidental. It would be PERFECTLY down the pub fairway to (1) agree to "people-pleasing" restrictions on gun buying/ownership for people with "mental health issues," and (2) in seemingly-unrelated legislation or litigation, codify transsexuality (or even LGBTQ+ status generally) as a "mental health issue."

[twocoach]

ha!

makes me wonder about the situation for trans adults

well Randy insists thats trans is a mental illness....so I'm sure the powers that be will use that logic to determine that they arent competent adults.

Yes. Don't think this positioning is accidental. It would be PERFECTLY down the pub fairway to (1) agree to "people-pleasing" restrictions on gun buying/ownership for people with "mental health issues," and (2) in seemingly-unrelated legislation or litigation, codify transsexuality (or even LGBTQ+ status generally) as a "mental health issue."

Anyone who choose to be anything other than a white, male, church-going, gun owning heterosexual clearly has mental health issues.