COVID-19 - On the Ground

[TDub]

who the fuck spells Suzy with a zy?

[jfish26]

who the fuck spells Suzy with a zy?

Someone whose grandmother deserves to suffocate to death from a disease someone else gave her?

[TDub]

[KUTradition]

disgusting (i’d think)

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

who the fuck spells Suzy with a zy?

FWIW (A Black-Eyed Susan flower and 7 poppy seeds that fell off a bagel?) there are/were many people who spell/spelled their name Suzy.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzy_(given_name)

[KUTradition]

[randylahey]

who the fuck spells Suzy with a zy?

Suby ejiafor

[TDub]

who the fuck spells Suzy with a zy?

Suby ejiafor

His name is Zuby Ejiofor

That's not really close to Susie. But....yea...

[TDub]

disgusting (i’d think)

all those damn seltzer that are the fad are disgusting.

[KUTradition]

disgusting (i’d think)

all those damn seltzer that are the fad are disgusting.

yet another reason to stay sober (not that i need one)

[TDub]

disgusting (i’d think)

all those damn seltzer that are the fad are disgusting.

yet another reason to stay sober (not that i need one)

I dont drink much. But I still enjoy having a few beers or a whiskey now and then.


Cutting out the chew has been much more difficult than slowing down the booze. goddamn....even with those worthless nicotine pouches or whatever.....those are not comparable. Havent had Copenhagen since the week before Thanksgiving. Its still a challenge to not grab a can everytime I get gas.....even harder to turn down a pinch at a rodeo or having a beer.

Anyway....its for the better, it was time...25ish years was enough. Someday maybe ill be able to have a pinch now and again in certain situations (like hunting....i dread next season haha) bur for now if i had 1 I'd pick it right back up like I never stopped.....ive done that road. The rogue or zyn will have to suffice for the moment.


sorry....got way off topic there.


Wait, maybe I can wrap this back around.....I hear thay nicotine blocks receptors for covid and its more likely to be mils for nicotine users (sans smokers)....wonder if there's any truth to that.

[KUTradition]

https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/03 ... -data/amp/

[jfish26]

There is no lab leak theory

It's still just vibes in search of a hypothesis

https://theracket.news/p/there-is-no-lab-leak-theory

[I'm not going to editorialize by barbering the article, which (to be clear) does not make any conclusions on the origins of Covid. Rather, the article describes how none of the available evidence - including the evidence supposedly underlying the DoE's "low confidence" assessment of lab leak origin - is consistent with the engineered bioweapon hypothesis. But if you do choose to respond to this article, I hope you will engage on the substance and the process points - the article is really about how hypotheses are developed, and theories from there.]

[Sparko]

The virus most closely resembles a pathogen from cave bats that infected workers years ago 800 miles or so from Wuhan, but brought to the lab for study. Did not see him address that. I think it was an inadvertent release myself. But we will probably never know. Another all point: the PRC and whatever passes for a public lab are never far from co-proprietors of anything with military application.

[zsn]

The virus most closely resembles a pathogen from cave bats that infected workers years ago 800 miles or so from Wuhan, but brought to the lab for study. Did not see him address that. I think it was an inadvertent release myself. But we will probably never know.

Imagine a sitcom episode where the protagonist is trying to build an amplifier that goes up to 14, shorts the power supply, sets the drapes on fire, tries to put it out by himself but ends up burning down a 4 blocks square part of the neighborhood.

If the virus did come from the lab that kind of scenario likely the best explanation. Some dude did something stupid in the lab, didn’t know he was infected, went to the market, sneezed all over a few people. Next thing you know the whole world comes to a standstill and several million people are dead. The fact that we gutted our ability to respond to exactly this situation didn’t help.

[jfish26]

The virus most closely resembles a pathogen from cave bats that infected workers years ago 800 miles or so from Wuhan, but brought to the lab for study. Did not see him address that. I think it was an inadvertent release myself. But we will probably never know.

Imagine a sitcom episode where the protagonist is trying to build an amplifier that goes up to 14, shorts the power supply, sets the drapes on fire, tries to put it out by himself but ends up burning down a 4 blocks square part of the neighborhood.

If the virus did come from the lab that kind of scenario likely the best explanation. Some dude did something stupid in the lab, didn’t know he was infected, went to the market, sneezed all over a few people. Next thing you know the whole world comes to a standstill and several million people are dead. The fact that we gutted our ability to respond to exactly this situation didn’t help.

This is a good, representative example of how the search for the real killer (hello, Orenthal) is, ultimately, a distraction.

Is it very important to pin this down with as much precision as possible? Yes, for the purpose of understanding Covid-19 better, and preventing future outbreaks/epidemics/pandemics.

But it's really not very important vis a vis American domestic politics, except that (ugh) it's become another gotcha game.*

* It's here I'll pause to note that the single STUPIDEST point in the gotcha game is "see, I was right." Blind squirrel, nut; broken clock accurate twice a day; etc. If the logical reasoning underpinning one's guess was shitty, no points are given for guessing right.

[Sparko]

Lab releases have been pretty regular worldwide. Gutting our pandemic reaction force and arguing against simple precautions is the single most stupid and destructive thing I have ever seen a president do. But Trump was working for the other team. The lab release of a super SARS is basically something we should have prepared to isolate like ebola or a renewed small pox attack.

[jfish26]

Lab releases have been pretty regular worldwide. Gutting our pandemic reaction force and arguing against simple precautions is the single most stupid and destructive thing I have ever seen a president do. But Trump was working for the other team. The lab release of a super SARS is basically something we should have prepared to isolate like ebola or a renewed small pox attack.

Yes, and this is probably the most salient point of all (vis a vis domestic politics). Taking a sleeping pill while at the switch was inexcusable. Something bad was inevitable; the specific nature of that bad thing is only so relevant. Does the degree to which China is at fault matter? Of course it does...but just not in ANY way that relieves the then-sitting administration's failures in detection or mitigation.

[DCHawk1]

https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/03 ... -data/amp/

LOL

[zsn]

Lab releases have been pretty regular worldwide. Gutting our pandemic reaction force and arguing against simple precautions is the single most stupid and destructive thing I have ever seen a president do. But Trump was working for the other team. The lab release of a super SARS is basically something we should have prepared to isolate like ebola or a renewed small pox attack.

Yes, and this is probably the most salient point of all (vis a vis domestic politics). Taking a sleeping pill while at the switch was inexcusable. Something bad was inevitable; the specific nature of that bad thing is only so relevant. Does the degree to which China is at fault matter? Of course it does...but just not in ANY way that relieves the then-sitting administration's failures in detection or mitigation.

Exactly. Once the virus was out, it was like the firemen, in my sitcom analogy, had disconnected the water supply to the hydrants. And then brought over a gasoline tanker and hooked their fire hoses to it.