Bill Self w/ 2

[Deleted User 863]

Looking back, I didn't realize Dayton was ranked so highly. At least KU is good enough to have a chance to win nearly every year. Dayton may never be that good ever again.

[jfish26]

Helms was all there was back then. There was no post-season tournament til 1939.

And...nor was there a post-season tournament in 2019-20.

I truly don't care if we claim, or don't claim, 1922, 1923 or 2020.

All I have said - and it's not really even a question - is that if you DO claim the Helms titles, you should logically ALSO claim the 2020 thing. Whatever it was.

Because it's the same thing, substantially. There is not a meaningful difference to the reasoning of claiming Helms "titles", and claiming whatever 2020 was.

[randylahey]

Looking back, I didn't realize Dayton was ranked so highly. At least KU is good enough to have a chance to win nearly every year. Dayton may never be that good ever again.

Yeah that dayton team was awesome. I feel really bad for that team. Obi toppin was the best player in the country that year. KU actually played them in a tournament championship game earl that season (Maui i think) and it went to overtime. One of the best games of the season. 2020 Dayton was special, that school really got fucked

[randylahey]

The 4 likely 1 seeds in 2020 were Dayton, Baylor, kansas, and Gonzaga. Baylor brought the same team back and won the 2021 national championship (Scott drewwww lol), obviously KU won last year. Gonzaga ain't winning no title but are consistently good at least

[PhDhawk]

Self just needs to win more so there isn’t enough space for all of them

This guy gets it.

[DCHawk1]

If we win this year, Bill retires.

Nothing left to prove.

[TDub]

If we win this year, Bill retires.

Nothing left to prove.

go after Wooden.

[jhawks99]

If we win this year, Bill retires.

Nothing left to prove.

With complete ignorance on Bill's thoughts I feel compelled to answer for him.
He seems to be having a lot of fun. Assuming he's healthy, he coaches for a while longer.

[jfish26]

If we win this year, Bill retires.

Nothing left to prove.

go after Wooden.

Not sure he’s available.

[dolomite]

Sixty is not old……Colonel Sanders didn’t sell his first KFC chicken until he was sixty.

[pdub]

Kentucky Fried Chicken chicken.

[hasbeen]

If Bill gets #3 and retires, surely Jay Wright is the one we try to lure back, right?

[twocoach]

While I agree the Natty was likely ours to lose in 2020, I fear awarding ourselves a title we didn't actually win would make our program appear kinda desperate, which we are not.

That's something the Kittens would do

The Helms banners say that this is something we do.

As pointed out by others, the Helms titles were not self-appointed. It's a really bad look to anoint yourself national title, ask a few UCF fans after they join the conference how their self appointed football title is going.

[twocoach]

If Bill gets #3 and retires, surely Jay Wright is the one we try to lure back, right?

It's delusional for anyone to think they are going to get Jay Wright or Brad Stevens to come back to ncaa hoops to coach.

[Deleted User 863]

That's something the Kittens would do

The Helms banners say that this is something we do.

As pointed out by others, the Helms titles were not self-appointed. It's a really bad look to anoint yourself national title, ask a few UCF fans after they join the conference how their self appointed football title is going.

Forgot about that one.

[jfish26]

That's something the Kittens would do

The Helms banners say that this is something we do.

As pointed out by others, the Helms titles were not self-appointed. It's a really bad look to anoint yourself national title, ask a few UCF fans after they join the conference how their self appointed football title is going.

So you'd feel warm and fuzzy about it if, I don't know, 65 AP writers and 32 coaches had, like, voted on this?

I think it's silly, and small, that we claim the Helms titles. But the logic behind claiming them, and the logic of us treating 2020 the same way as we treat 1922 and 1923, are of a piece.

[Mjl]

Kentucky Fried Chicken chicken.

ATM machine
PIN number
JWT token

[hasbeen]

If Bill gets #3 and retires, surely Jay Wright is the one we try to lure back, right?

It's delusional for anyone to think they are going to get Jay Wright or Brad Stevens to come back to ncaa hoops to coach.

Delusional is just so blatantly overboard to what I suggested lmao JFC

[MICHHAWK]

jay wright made all the right moves. made a fortune. went out on top, on his own terms. young enough to enjoy all the fruits of those labors. he's laughing.

we should all be so lucky.





i would not be surprised if he got back into coaching.

[jfish26]

If Bill gets #3 and retires, surely Jay Wright is the one we try to lure back, right?

It's delusional for anyone to think they are going to get Jay Wright or Brad Stevens to come back to ncaa hoops to coach.

Delusional is just so blatantly overboard to what I suggested lmao JFC

Bill has made this job so good that I don't think there's ANY plausible target that it would be "delusional" to think we can get.