Bill Self w/ 2

[Sparko]

Power outtage here. Watching via phone.

Sorry to hear that Sparko.

Still am. Tejas. Yay?

[Shirley]

Power outtage here. Watching via phone.

Sorry to hear that Sparko.

Still am. Tejas. Yay?

I've always thought Gov Abbott has it in for you.

[Sparko]

Sorry to hear that Sparko.

Still am. Tejas. Yay?

I've always thought Gov Abbott has it in for you.

My son claims that Abbott purposely injured himself. Like the stupid Guy Caballero

[twocoach]

So you'd feel warm and fuzzy about it if, I don't know, 65 AP writers and 32 coaches had, like, voted on this?

I think it's silly, and small, that we claim the Helms titles. But the logic behind claiming them, and the logic of us treating 2020 the same way as we treat 1922 and 1923, are of a piece.

"Since the NCAA tournament that still exists today made its first appearance in 1939, other organizations were relied on to name the national champions of the years prior, and thus the Helms Athletic Foundation took initiative with the sole creditor of the champions from 1904 to 1937, awarded to the Jayhawks in 1922 and 1923".https://www.kansan.com/sports/1922-23-t ... 49b43.html

I think the Helms banners are legit, and I think claiming the title for 2020 is bullshit. My original comment on the kitties was a pimp on all the proclamations that the staties have made and have been ridiculed on these boards and the preceding boards.

What is the difference between the Helms banners - which reflect the only real outside validation of who was the best team in 1922 and 1923 - and a recognition that...the only real outside validation of who was the best team in 2020, validates Kansas?

To, again, be clear: I'm not saying we SHOULD do this. I think it's petty and insecure and small.

But it's driving me nuts that anyone thinks there's a difference in the underlying reasoning. There's just not. They would all three be "self-declared" or "mythical" national championships, based on what outsiders declared/voted on.

If you want to say that two zebras are horses, I don't agree with you. Zebras are zebras, and horses are horses. But if two zebras over here are horses, then so's that donkey over there.

If I agree with you, can we stop talking about it? Yes, a reviewing entity would be assigning a title based on some agreed upon analysis of available info and metrics and that would be the same in both scenarios.

[hoopla]

"Since the NCAA tournament that still exists today made its first appearance in 1939, other organizations were relied on to name the national champions of the years prior, and thus the Helms Athletic Foundation took initiative with the sole creditor of the champions from 1904 to 1937, awarded to the Jayhawks in 1922 and 1923".https://www.kansan.com/sports/1922-23-t ... 49b43.html

I think the Helms banners are legit, and I think claiming the title for 2020 is bullshit. My original comment on the kitties was a pimp on all the proclamations that the staties have made and have been ridiculed on these boards and the preceding boards.

What is the difference between the Helms banners - which reflect the only real outside validation of who was the best team in 1922 and 1923 - and a recognition that...the only real outside validation of who was the best team in 2020, validates Kansas?

To, again, be clear: I'm not saying we SHOULD do this. I think it's petty and insecure and small.

But it's driving me nuts that anyone thinks there's a difference in the underlying reasoning. There's just not. They would all three be "self-declared" or "mythical" national championships, based on what outsiders declared/voted on.

If you want to say that two zebras are horses, I don't agree with you. Zebras are zebras, and horses are horses. But if two zebras over here are horses, then so's that donkey over there.

If I agree with you, can we stop talking about it? Yes, a reviewing entity would be assigning a title based on some agreed upon analysis of available info and metrics and that would be the same in both scenarios.

meh, the tournament rarely results in the best team winning whereas Helms and 2020 recognize a body of work. what is a "champion"?

[Deleted User 863]

In college basketball a champion is someone who wins the NCAA tournament. Currently.

[DCHawk1]

If I agree with you, can we stop talking about it?

Not until Illy's done destroying this poor dead horse.

[Deleted User 863]

pot meet kettle

[Sparko]

pot meet kettle

Panist.

[PhDhawk]

So...where can I get a t-shirt.

[Deleted User 863]

[jhawks99]

Power outtage here. Watching via phone.

Been there, hope it's short lived.

[TDub]

So...where can I get a t-shirt.

talk to one of the moms at the schools PTO meeting....guarantee one of them has a side gig screen printing t shirts and is climbing the slippery walls of the oyramid.... just 300 shirts short of an all expenses paid trip to the Bahamas and a new Mercedes.

[jfish26]

So...where can I get a t-shirt.

talk to one of the moms at the schools PTO meeting....guarantee one of them has a side gig screen printing t shirts and is climbing the slippery walls of the oyramid.... just 300 shirts short of an all expenses paid trip to the Bahamas and a new Mercedes.

Fucking cults, man.

[NewtonHawk11]

No Bill again today.

[TDub]

booo...

I mean, I'm all for him getting the rest he needs. And I wouldn't trade him next year for one game this year. But I do think we miss him on the bench.

[TDub]

Dajuan in particular plays better when Bill is Coaching.



Although, perhaps they can use this as motivation....gotta get to next weekend so Bill can Coach. Can't end his season for him.

[InfiniteJ]

Bill's interview with Gurley before the Howard game was pretty telling; he sounded winded and a bit fragile...which is to be expected, I would imagine.

[KUTradition]

no idea what kind of recovery that sort of procedure entails, but i wonder if the “day-to-day” status is about more than just his health

[Deleted User 863]

no idea what kind of recovery that sort of procedure entails, but i wonder if the “day-to-day” status is about more than just his health

Meaning...?