Another mass shooting

[jfish26]

[Sparko]

But, but, trans. Rinse. Repeat.

[jfish26]

But, but, trans. Rinse. Repeat.

Right, I forgot. Those guns the schoolmarms had, had those dem-mandated “can’t shoot trans people” safeties.

[KUTradition]

A high school athletics department in a small town in central Ohio is raffling off powerful firearms—including an AR-15—to raise funds to buy equipment for the track team.

The gun raffle, in aid of the Upper Sandusky Rams Track and Field, has been so popular that this week the organizers added a fifth gun to the prize list and on Wednesday announced all 500 $10 tickets have been sold.

The guns on offer include a Savage 93R17 bolt-action rifle with scope, a Mossberg Patriot 350 Legend, two Tisas 1911 handguns, and an AR-15 rifle.  

https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvjxnv/ ... -15-raffle

wtf is wrong with this country?

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

A high school athletics department in a small town in central Ohio is raffling off powerful firearms—including an AR-15—to raise funds to buy equipment for the track team.

The gun raffle, in aid of the Upper Sandusky Rams Track and Field, has been so popular that this week the organizers added a fifth gun to the prize list and on Wednesday announced all 500 $10 tickets have been sold.

The guns on offer include a Savage 93R17 bolt-action rifle with scope, a Mossberg Patriot 350 Legend, two Tisas 1911 handguns, and an AR-15 rifle.  

https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvjxnv/ ... -15-raffle

wtf is wrong with this country?

Gee, what a shocker. Lookie what I found......

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -condemned

https://www.bestplaces.net/voting/city/ ... r_sandusky

2010 Census.....
95.0% White, 0.3% African American, 0.2% Native American, 0.8% Asian, 2.6% from other races, and 1.2% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino people of any race were 4.3% of the population.

[jfish26]

A high school athletics department in a small town in central Ohio is raffling off powerful firearms—including an AR-15—to raise funds to buy equipment for the track team.

The gun raffle, in aid of the Upper Sandusky Rams Track and Field, has been so popular that this week the organizers added a fifth gun to the prize list and on Wednesday announced all 500 $10 tickets have been sold.

The guns on offer include a Savage 93R17 bolt-action rifle with scope, a Mossberg Patriot 350 Legend, two Tisas 1911 handguns, and an AR-15 rifle.  

https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvjxnv/ ... -15-raffle

wtf is wrong with this country?

I read a not-crazy suggestion the other day that people (like me) with school-age kids should start taking out massive term life insurance policies on our children. So that the insurance companies assess the exposure and start putting more pressure on their beholden politicians to fucking DO something.

[jfish26]

Maybe I have failed to understand the "arm the schools" crowd. Maybe I have concluded (correctly) from stories like the one below that the "good guys with guns" are not really a deterrent to assault rifle-wielding killers, BUT maybe I have not considered whether what the "arm the schools" crowd is really advocating for is for schoolmarms to have access to fully-automatic weapons (or whatever degree of lethality might be necessary to deter the killers).

“He has a battle rifle”: Police feared Uvalde gunman’s AR-15

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/20 ... ice-ar-15/

In previously unreleased interviews, police who responded to the Robb Elementary shooting told investigators they were cowed by the shooter’s military-style rifle. This drove their decision to wait for a Border Patrol SWAT team to engage him, which took more than an hour.

A Texas Tribune investigation, based on police body cameras, emergency communications and interviews with investigators that have not been made public, found officers had concluded that immediately confronting the gunman would be too dangerous. Even though some officers were armed with the same rifle, they opted to wait for the arrival of a Border Patrol SWAT team, with more protective body armor, stronger shields and more tactical training — even though the unit was based more than 60 miles away.

“You knew that it was definitely an AR,” Uvalde Police Department Sgt. Donald Page said in an interview with investigators after the school shooting. “There was no way of going in. … We had no choice but to wait and try to get something that had better coverage where we could actually stand up to him.”

“We weren’t equipped to make entry into that room without several casualties,” Uvalde Police Department Detective Louis Landry said in a separate investigative interview. He added, “Once we found out it was a rifle he was using, it was a different game plan we would have had to come up with. It wasn’t just going in guns blazing, the Old West style, and take him out.”

[...]

“You know what kind of gun?” state Trooper Richard Bogdanski asked in a conversation captured on his body-camera footage outside of the school.

“AR. He has a battle rifle,” a voice responded.

“Does he really?” another asked.

“What’s the safest way to do this? I’m not trying to get clapped out,” Bogdanski said.

[...]

“Had anybody gone through that door, he would have killed whoever it was,” Uvalde Police Department Lt. Javier Martinez told investigators the day after the shooting. You “can only carry so many ballistic vests on you. That .223 (caliber) round would have gone right through you.”

Coronado echoed the concern in his own interviews with investigators about the moment he realized the gunman had a battle rifle.

“I knew too it wasn’t a pistol. ... I was like, ‘Shit, it’s a rifle,’” he said. He added, “The way he was shooting, he was probably going to take all of us out.”

[...]

“Ultimately, as we all know, what stops armed bad guys is armed good guys,” said U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz at the National Rifle Association convention in Houston three days after the Uvalde shooting.

It's. The. Guns. You. Imbeciles.

[randylahey]

[twocoach]

Which of the hundreds of mass shootings were those agencies responsible for?

[jfish26]

Which of the hundreds of mass shootings were those agencies responsible for?

The ones the MSM has suppressed coverage of, duh.

[twocoach]

Which of the hundreds of mass shootings were those agencies responsible for?

The ones the MSM has suppressed coverage of, duh.

As close as I can get is a story about the FBI being involved in an investigation that thwarted a mass shooting before it happened.
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles ... as-capital

Maybe the opportunity to better accomplish mass shootings is really why some MAGA kooks want those agencies ended.

[jfish26]

You have to remember how rube brain works: fentanyl seizures at the border are somehow evidence of a soft border.

[randylahey]

Lol i don't think libertarians have anything to do with maga. But if you've looked into the usa's foreign affairs over the past century....

The intelligence community is responsible for a lot of death

[jfish26]

Lol i don't think libertarians have anything to do with maga. But if you've looked into the usa's foreign affairs over the past century....

The intelligence community is responsible for a lot of death

Just so we’re on the same page, twocoach: if you do your own research, you can find whatever you’d like to support a claim.

[DCHawk1]

I mean...of all the agencies w/massive weapons stockpiles, those three seem like the ones most likely to need them.

The IRS? Not so much. But he can't quite get there.

[KUTradition]

Lol i don't think libertarians have anything to do with maga. But if you've looked into the usa's foreign affairs over the past century....

The intelligence community is responsible for a lot of death

if you’ve looked into the history of the US…

caucasians are responsible for a lot of death

we should take their guns away

[twocoach]

Lol i don't think libertarians have anything to do with maga. But if you've looked into the usa's foreign affairs over the past century....

The intelligence community is responsible for a lot of death

So are religious, white male gun owners. Your point (besides "hey, look over there!")?

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

People live in this community to feel safe and secure. Yeah, right. Welcome to 2023 USA.

To answer the kid's question - Never.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/ ... story.html

[Sparko]

A high school athletics department in a small town in central Ohio is raffling off powerful firearms—including an AR-15—to raise funds to buy equipment for the track team.

The gun raffle, in aid of the Upper Sandusky Rams Track and Field, has been so popular that this week the organizers added a fifth gun to the prize list and on Wednesday announced all 500 $10 tickets have been sold.

The guns on offer include a Savage 93R17 bolt-action rifle with scope, a Mossberg Patriot 350 Legend, two Tisas 1911 handguns, and an AR-15 rifle.  

https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvjxnv/ ... -15-raffle

wtf is wrong with this country?

I read a not-crazy suggestion the other day that people (like me) with school-age kids should start taking out massive term life insurance policies on our children. So that the insurance companies assess the exposure and start putting more pressure on their beholden politicians to fucking DO something.

Genius.

[jfish26]

Lol i don't think libertarians have anything to do with maga. But if you've looked into the usa's foreign affairs over the past century....

The intelligence community is responsible for a lot of death

But is it, you know, acceptable death?