We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

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jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:11 am
randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:57 am
This is...not something to be celebrated.
When did I say I was celebrating it? I just posted that it happened, with no comment
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Overlander wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:07 am The earth is our true god.

And we piss all over its face.
Nature is my religion.

Not the r kelly stuff tho lol
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randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:57 am
So who is going to do all the Sunday sermons once all the pedophile priests are put to death?
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randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:17 am
jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:11 am
randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:57 am
This is...not something to be celebrated.
When did I say I was celebrating it? I just posted that it happened, with no comment
I never accused you of celebrating it. But thanks for confirming it all the same.
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:24 am
randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:17 am
jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:11 am

This is...not something to be celebrated.
When did I say I was celebrating it? I just posted that it happened, with no comment
I never accused you of celebrating it. But thanks for confirming it all the same.
Are you against punishing pedophiles that sexually assault children under 12?
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randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:39 am
jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:24 am
randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:17 am

When did I say I was celebrating it? I just posted that it happened, with no comment
I never accused you of celebrating it. But thanks for confirming it all the same.
Are you against punishing pedophiles that sexually assault children under 12?
Stop moving the fucking goalposts. And stop being such an absolutist twat. “The death penalty is bad” is not the same thing as “we shouldn’t punish kid diddlers.”

Although maybe it is to you - after all, in your world kids are gonna die anyway so what’s the point of reducing the number of them that die by assault rifle.
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:43 am
randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:39 am
jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:24 am

I never accused you of celebrating it. But thanks for confirming it all the same.
Are you against punishing pedophiles that sexually assault children under 12?
Stop moving the fucking goalposts. And stop being such an absolutist twat. “The death penalty is bad” is not the same thing as “we shouldn’t punish kid diddlers.”

Although maybe it is to you - after all, in your world kids are gonna die anyway so what’s the point of reducing the number of them that die by assault rifle.
Same concept as when you label me "pro murdering children" lol
Lesson learned hopefully
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now THIS is reasonable:

ann coulter abortion compromise: ban for registered pubs only
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
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nah…

randy has assured us that it’s the left going all hitler-esque

:lol:
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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DeSantis’ whole thing now is government-as-culture-war-enforcer.
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:42 am DeSantis’ whole thing now is government-as-culture-war-enforcer.
Both sides of the culture war are taking shit so far from the middle its just infuriating for everybody lol. Not even trying to find middle ground anymore
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Fortunately. The pro gun trannies will take over soon and restore balance to the force. Neither side can stop them. The liberals can't dare become bigots and stand in their way, and Republicans won't dare infringe their gun rights

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randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:48 am
jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:42 am DeSantis’ whole thing now is government-as-culture-war-enforcer.
Both sides of the culture war are taking shit so far from the middle its just infuriating for everybody lol. Not even trying to find middle ground anymore
But that’s just not true; please list out what you think are my leftiest positions. I think what you’ll see is they’re actually fairly centrist (and popular) positions, and that what’s really happening is the right is (in its desperation, catering to lunatics) lurching even further over to the right.
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:56 am
randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:48 am
jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:42 am DeSantis’ whole thing now is government-as-culture-war-enforcer.
Both sides of the culture war are taking shit so far from the middle its just infuriating for everybody lol. Not even trying to find middle ground anymore
But that’s just not true; please list out what you think are my leftiest positions. I think what you’ll see is they’re actually fairly centrist (and popular) positions, and that what’s really happening is the right is (in its desperation, catering to lunatics) lurching even further over to the right.
Both sides are doing it man you can't seriously think its just one.
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Some of the leftist things lately that actually bother me:
1. all the support for vaccine mandates, despite no testing of the vaccines ability to stop covid from spreading, no regard for the individuals medical autonomy, whether they even needed the vaccine or not
2. The insistence of this transgender agenda being promoted to confused young kids, allowing hormone treatment or surgeries on minors
3. Pedophilia dismissed as "minor attracted people"
4. Not wanting to require voter ID, but labeling states/politicians that want it as "banning voting rights" - the list of things you need ID for is pretty massive, no reason voting shouldn't be on it
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randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:07 pm
jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:56 am
randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:48 am

Both sides of the culture war are taking shit so far from the middle its just infuriating for everybody lol. Not even trying to find middle ground anymore
But that’s just not true; please list out what you think are my leftiest positions. I think what you’ll see is they’re actually fairly centrist (and popular) positions, and that what’s really happening is the right is (in its desperation, catering to lunatics) lurching even further over to the right.
Both sides are doing it man you can't seriously think its just one.
Why is it so hard to follow directions.

Please list out what you think are my leftiest positions. And then let’s actually discuss them as fixed targets, rather than constantly moving goalposts (or, more dumbly, inscrutable scare words).

There’s very much a middle. The far right is just in denial over what that middle presently is, and where it’s going.
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And jfish I realize your opinions aren't as extreme as some or those. But the conversation was whether or not both sides are moving farther away from the middle. Both are

But I do not think you are an extremist. I know you mean well. Most people do, and most people's views don't completely align with either the left or right
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randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:17 pm Some of the leftist things lately that actually bother me:
1. all the support for vaccine mandates, despite no testing of the vaccines ability to stop covid from spreading, no regard for the individuals medical autonomy, whether they even needed the vaccine or not. THERE IS VERY LITTLE POPULAR SUPPORT FOR ACTUAL VACCINE MANDATES. I DO NOT SUPPORT AND HAVE NEVER SUPPORTED VACCINE MANDATES.
2. The insistence of this transgender agenda being promoted to confused young kids, allowing hormone treatment or surgeries on minors YOU’RE BUNDLING ISSUES. PLEASE UNPACK.
3. Pedophilia dismissed as "minor attracted people" WHO IS DOING THIS? SPECIFIC EXAMPLES PLEASE.
4. Not wanting to require voter ID, but labeling states/politicians that want it as "banning voting rights" - the list of things you need ID for is pretty massive, no reason voting shouldn't be on it. I’M NOT SURE WHAT “BANNING VOTING RIGHTS” EVEN MEANS. BUT IN ANY CASE, THE ISSUE IS THAT THE DOCUMENTED OCCURRENCE OF ACTUAL VOTING FRAUD IS NOT NEARLY PERVASIVE ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY CLEARLY VOTING-SUPPRESSIVE MEASURES (LIKE REQUIRING STATE-ISSUED IDENTIFICATION, WHICH IS TRANSPARENTLY AIMED AT SUPPRESSING THE VOTE OF CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE WHO TEND TO VOTE A CERTAIN WAY.)
See above in CAPS.
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Youre arguing 2 different things at the same time. Are we talking about the 2 sides getting farther from the middle? Or are we talking about your personal views
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