We lost the battle for the democrat party's soul long ago

[randylahey]

I think there is a reasonable debate to be had regarding trans men competing against women. The problem here is the reasonable part of it. This is meant to further marginalize a group of people for political show. The motivation is malice towards a small group of relatively powerless people for political gain.

There is a lot of debate but zero of it is reasonable

Women shouldn't work their whole life just so some dude pretending to be a woman can beat them

Just make a separate competition for trans athletes to compete against eachother if they can't handle competing against their biological gender

And trans individuals participating in sporting events makes up about .001% of sports participants so you can see why this is such an important issue, maybe one of the most important issues in our country today. It effects every facet of our lives from inflation, to access to medical care, to national security and economic growth. KUDOs to the trumpertarian party for realizing this and taking it so seriously and spending the monumental effort to properly legislate it. lol

Ironic that you nailed all the real problems the biden administration should be working on. Instead of promoting the trans agenda and entertaining trans tiktokers

[KUTradition]

hilarious that randy is showing his true discriminatory, bigoted views

(not surprising though)

[randylahey]

randy = reasonable

He makes up his own truth

well, musk said the people should decide the truth…he’s just following orders

We continue to catch politicians in lie after lie after lie... do we not?

The people deserve to at least interpret things in open discusion. Instead of having "the truth" dictated to them, to later find out it was a lie. That cycle needs to be broken.

Musk is 100% right about this

[randylahey]

Used to be the news would you what happened, and it was up to you what to think.

Now the news tells you what to think, and you have to figure out what really happened

[KUTradition]

i said nothing about politicians…they aren’t the ultimate problem today, in and of themselves

musk is the problem; zuckerberg is the problem; the trumps, mtgs, and lidells of the country are the problem

the alex joneses are the problem

the faux newses are the problem

but ultimately, it’s the rubes who eat their demonstrably and court-certified falsehoods up, and continue regurgitate it, that are the problem

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

He makes up his own truth

well, musk said the people should decide the truth…he’s just following orders

We continue to catch politicians in lie after lie after lie... do we not?

The people deserve to at least interpret things in open discusion. Instead of having "the truth" dictated to them, to later find out it was a lie. That cycle needs to be broken.

Musk is 100% right about this

Ok, if he is 100% right about "this" then why does he continuously and consciously tweet his opinions in a manner in which he wants his followers to NOT think for themselves but to feel what he says is the word of God?

[Mjl]

There is a lot of debate but zero of it is reasonable

Women shouldn't work their whole life just so some dude pretending to be a woman can beat them

Just make a separate competition for trans athletes to compete against eachother if they can't handle competing against their biological gender

And trans individuals participating in sporting events makes up about .001% of sports participants so you can see why this is such an important issue, maybe one of the most important issues in our country today. It effects every facet of our lives from inflation, to access to medical care, to national security and economic growth. KUDOs to the trumpertarian party for realizing this and taking it so seriously and spending the monumental effort to properly legislate it. lol

Ironic that you nailed all the real problems the biden administration should be working on. Instead of promoting the trans agenda and entertaining trans tiktokers

Wait, you're saying Biden is the one making transgenderism a national political issue?

What planet are you living on?

[KUTradition]

planet rube

[jfish26]

I think there is a reasonable debate to be had regarding trans men competing against women. The problem here is the reasonable part of it. This is meant to further marginalize a group of people for political show. The motivation is malice towards a small group of relatively powerless people for political gain.

There is a lot of debate but zero of it is reasonable

Women shouldn't work their whole life just so some dude pretending to be a woman can beat them

Just make a separate competition for trans athletes to compete against eachother if they can't handle competing against their biological gender

And trans individuals participating in sporting events makes up about .001% of sports participants so you can see why this is such an important issue, maybe one of the most important issues in our country today. It effects every facet of our lives from inflation, to access to medical care, to national security and economic growth. KUDOs to the trumpertarian party for realizing this and taking it so seriously and spending the monumental effort to properly legislate it. lol

This (your point) is the heart of it.

The Rs are quite transparently and clumsily using a statistical non-issue to rile up the rubes. They are not engaging in anything like a good-faith discussion, and are instead using this statistical non-issue to advance the broader program (which is to impose white, Christian "morals" on everyone).

And, frankly, they're exploiting straight, white women as pawns in this theater. There is a ton of VERY REAL damage being done to careers, families, people, arising out of these games. In trying to "solve" for the extreme edge case, the Rs would - the Rs ARE - directly attacking the physical and mental health of potentially millions of fellow citizens.

[KUTradition]

and many, if not most of those being harmed are kids, and already marginalized due to being different

[randylahey]

well, musk said the people should decide the truth…he’s just following orders

We continue to catch politicians in lie after lie after lie... do we not?

The people deserve to at least interpret things in open discusion. Instead of having "the truth" dictated to them, to later find out it was a lie. That cycle needs to be broken.

Musk is 100% right about this

Ok, if he is 100% right about "this" then why does he continuously and consciously tweet his opinions in a manner in which he wants his followers to NOT think for themselves but to feel what he says is the word of God?

Surely he's still allowed to have opinions right?

[randylahey]

i said nothing about politicians…they aren’t the ultimate problem today, in and of themselves

musk is the problem; zuckerberg is the problem; the trumps, mtgs, and lidells of the country are the problem

the alex joneses are the problem

the faux newses are the problem

but ultimately, it’s the rubes who eat their demonstrably and court-certified falsehoods up, and continue regurgitate it, that are the problem

Those people all add to the problem. The real problem? Too many people are aligned with a "political team" and think only the other team is the problem

[randylahey]

And trans individuals participating in sporting events makes up about .001% of sports participants so you can see why this is such an important issue, maybe one of the most important issues in our country today. It effects every facet of our lives from inflation, to access to medical care, to national security and economic growth. KUDOs to the trumpertarian party for realizing this and taking it so seriously and spending the monumental effort to properly legislate it. lol

Ironic that you nailed all the real problems the biden administration should be working on. Instead of promoting the trans agenda and entertaining trans tiktokers

Wait, you're saying Biden is the one making transgenderism a national political issue?

What planet are you living on?

No there is obvious back and forth between both sides. Its somehow become a pivotal topic in the culture war despite the world having so many bigger problems

[jfish26]

and many, if not most of those being harmed are kids, and already marginalized due to being different

It's just so fucking disgusting. I said this in another thread. The bad-faith play afoot here is to pass legislation that restricts firearm access to "people with mental health issues"*, and in so doing, get legislation on the books that categorizes the fact of being LGBTQ+ as a "mental health issue."

* In their unlimited bad-faith, what will happen is that the Rs will point to this discriminatory and hurtful legislation (which of course will fail in the Senate) as "proof" that the Democrat Party won't engage in good faith on gun control, and it's the Democrat Party again putting the nation's youth at risk. This will then be cover for the Rs to continue to do NOTHING about gun violence. It's all so painfully fucking obvious.

[jfish26]

Ironic that you nailed all the real problems the biden administration should be working on. Instead of promoting the trans agenda and entertaining trans tiktokers

Wait, you're saying Biden is the one making transgenderism a national political issue?

What planet are you living on?

No there is obvious back and forth between both sides. Its somehow become a pivotal topic in the culture war despite the world having so many bigger problems

Somehow?

SOMEHOW?

The somehow is that rubes buy "I'm an American and my penis goes in a vagina" tchotchkes, and get all horny to come to the ballot box when they can vote down the Democrat Party and its trans-pushing agenda.

[KUTradition]

i said nothing about politicians…they aren’t the ultimate problem today, in and of themselves

musk is the problem; zuckerberg is the problem; the trumps, mtgs, and lidells of the country are the problem

the alex joneses are the problem

the faux newses are the problem

but ultimately, it’s the rubes who eat their demonstrably and court-certified falsehoods up, and continue regurgitate it, that are the problem

Those people all add to the problem. The real problem? Too many people are aligned with a "political team" and think only the other team is the problem

where are all the dems/liberals actively lying? seriously, show me this is an EQUAL problem on both sides of the aisle

i’m not saying there aren’t assholes on “the left”; there are assholes everywhere

but put up or shut up

[randylahey]

But we can't act like the biden administration isn't making this worse. Or that its a "centrist idea" to agree with. A lot of women are truly offended by the mockery this makes or feminism

[KUTradition]

i’ve not once seen a bumper sticker claiming “i’m proudly anti-conservative” or “proudly anti-right”

i’ve seen several proclaiming “anti-woke” or “anti-liberal”

[randylahey]

i said nothing about politicians…they aren’t the ultimate problem today, in and of themselves

musk is the problem; zuckerberg is the problem; the trumps, mtgs, and lidells of the country are the problem

the alex joneses are the problem

the faux newses are the problem

but ultimately, it’s the rubes who eat their demonstrably and court-certified falsehoods up, and continue regurgitate it, that are the problem

Those people all add to the problem. The real problem? Too many people are aligned with a "political team" and think only the other team is the problem

where are all the dems/liberals actively lying? seriously, show me this is an EQUAL problem on both sides of the aisle

i’m not saying there aren’t assholes on “the left”; there are assholes everywhere

but put up or shut up

Biden literally did a live interview with a tiktok trans person whos making millions by pretending to be a women. Right about the time the ukraine/russia situation was tipping off. And inflation was fucking our economy

[randylahey]

You are truly delusional of you dont think dems/libs lie too lol