randylahey wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 5:03 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 4:58 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 4:53 pm
Love that you give Jordan credit for everything that happened for the bulls dynasty
While lebron carried multiple struggling franchises to championships
Completely different situations
Hate that it seems you are too ignorant to realize LeBron won championships with as much if not more talent than Jordan had on his teams when he won his championships.
Nobody wins titles without other good players lol. The bulls, in their era, were a far better assembled team that anything lebron has been on.
Best evidence Jordan's legacy benefited from playing on a dynasty team:
When Jordan left after the 3 peat, his team won 57 games without him. When lebron left Cleveland and Miami, they barely won 20 games
Of course Jordan's legacy benefitted from playing on a dynasty team - just as part of LeBron's legacy benefited from him jumping from team to team to play with better players than he previously played with. Right?
Jordan was on "far better" assembled teams? I don't know about that.
LeBron was assembled with Wade as well as Bosh and Allen.
He was assembled with Kyrie in his prime, Love, Smith and Jones.
He was assembled with Davis, Kuzma, Green, Rondo, Howard, etc.
You act like he played with garbage.
Yes, when Jordan left the Bulls in 93 they won 57 the next season. Now tell us what happened when he left in 98.
The Bulls were 13-37. The next season they were 17-65.
Of course a lot of that had to do with the other players who left.
LeBron left the Heat in 2014. They were 54-28 his last season there and then the next season they went 37-45. Not "barely won 20 games".
Do you realize Wade missed 20 games and Bosh missed 30+ games that season?
LeBron left Cleveland in 2018. They were 50-32 in his last season there. Yes, the next season they went a miserable 19-63 but let's realize Wade was gone. Love only played 22 games for that team. Smith only played 11. Hill only played 13. Etc., etc.