Ode to Olive Garden

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Mjl wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:35 am While you guys enjoy feeling manly, I'm going to enjoy my perfectly done steak.
my beard grows faster when I use coals.....coincidence? I dont think so.
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TDub wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:05 am
Mjl wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:35 am While you guys enjoy feeling manly, I'm going to enjoy my perfectly done steak.
my beard grows faster when I use coals.....coincidence? I dont think so.
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“perfection” is so subjective when it comes to food

some of the absolute best meals i’ve had have been cooked over a campfire…ambience, flavor, satisfaction
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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KUTradition wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:02 am
TDub wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 10:58 am
pdub wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 8:26 am I guess it depends on the cut of steak.
If I have a thick cut of steak ( and generally ), I avoid the skillet altogether and go for the grill, cooking it off heat ( coals to one side ) for 30 minutes and then finishing it on the heat.

The plus side of sous vide would be thick cut steak done the right way in the winter where I will usually, if making steak, just do it on the skillet.
I do the opposite.

direct heat at the beginning, 2 minutes each side, then off to the side of the coals for 20ish minutes if indirect heat.
^^^^

that direct heat i see akin to a sear, locking moisture in
That's actually fallacy. Searing creates a lot of flavor but does not seal in anything. Resting a steak after cooking is very important, juices will redistribute back into the meat. If you cut into it right off the grill, you will see a lot of juice run out.
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jhawks99 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:56 am
KUTradition wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:02 am
TDub wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 10:58 am
I do the opposite.

direct heat at the beginning, 2 minutes each side, then off to the side of the coals for 20ish minutes if indirect heat.
^^^^

that direct heat i see akin to a sear, locking moisture in
That's actually fallacy. Searing creates a lot of flavor but does not seal in anything. Resting a steak after cooking is very important, juices will redistribute back into the meat. If you cut into it right off the grill, you will see a lot of juice run out.
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that’s admittedly surprising, as i’ve read a number of recipes that advocate the method for this specific reason

and yes, the resting is always good (unless i’m hungry and impatient)
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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https://grillhunters.co/searing-meat-seal-juices/

"The fact is, searing your steaks creates no “seal” or waterproof barrier to prevent the juices from escaping from the inside.

This is actually a grilling myth that just won’t die"
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KUTradition wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:19 am “perfection” is so subjective when it comes to food

some of the absolute best meals i’ve had have been cooked over a campfire…ambience, flavor, satisfaction
Yep.
Also depends on how hungry you are too.
I remember on days where I was backpacking 10-15 miles through mountains, at the end of the night the vacuum sealed meals you'd just mix with water and heat up on a camp stove were heavenly.
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KUTradition wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:04 pm
jhawks99 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:56 am
KUTradition wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:02 am
^^^^

that direct heat i see akin to a sear, locking moisture in
That's actually fallacy. Searing creates a lot of flavor but does not seal in anything. Resting a steak after cooking is very important, juices will redistribute back into the meat. If you cut into it right off the grill, you will see a lot of juice run out.
learn something new every day

that’s admittedly surprising, as i’ve read a number of recipes that advocate the method for this specific reason

and yes, the resting is always good (unless i’m hungry and impatient)
I was taught searing sears in the juices while in culinary school, of course this was the 70s. It's been debunked but as PDub says, it won't die.
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My wife uses salt and pepper and a gas grill. Rests the steak. Then the best I have ever eaten. I had been overthinking steaks.
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"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

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So I’m prolly just way late to this party…..but it’s new for me.

They sell BWW sauces at the store. $4 for a bottle of mango habanero. Alright. Tastes exactly like stuff in store (you know some hot and a cupful of sugar). But, with some wings marked down to $13, wings disjointed, seasoned, and air fried in half an hour. Just add sauce and shake to cover.

I haven’t been to BWW for a while, as I noticed their prices went crazy (worse than others, they are all bad anymore). But do love me some wings and not having to make a sauce is alright by me.
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BWW is too sweet for me. Takes 20 minutes in the air fryer. I season the wings, dredge in a mix of flour and corn starch the into the Ninja with a spray of Pam.

Sauce is Frank's with a stiff glug of El Yuccateco
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I melt Frank's and butter together for my standard wing sauce.
I prefer to do the wings on the grill.
Then toss em in the sauce - maybe add some lemon juice.
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99- sweet for sure.

I usually do a Buffalo style sauce at home. Franks/butter/Cumin/garlic/Black Pepper/white pepper/Splash of Pickle Juice.
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And pdub- usually smoke mine, but when I’m more of a rush, air fryer is great. I use baking powder instead of corn starch to get the crunch. No flour.
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Lovers of Olive Garden, i.e., everyone, will be glad to know that after falling to a low of $26.15 on 3-18-20 during Covid, OG owner Darden set an all-time high of $168.72 today, an increase of almost 6.5 times in the value of its stock since the low, on the same day their acquisition of Ruth's Chris Steak House was completed.

Thanks, Joe.
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The wing talk here combined with a great sale on them at Mariano's means I am grilling wings tonight.

Suggestions for a mild wing sauce? My kids don't do heat
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I googled "mild chicken wing sauce". Pretty much every result was for a buffalo sauce and included a bunch of hot sauce.

Google has gotten so, so bad
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Shirley- I haven’t been to OG in forever. But, last time I went, I ordered some Alfredo for my ‘bread’ sticks. Given my other post today, I would like you to know I ‘probably’ wouldn’t order that today :)
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Mjl wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:01 pm The wing talk here combined with a great sale on them at Mariano's means I am grilling wings tonight.

Suggestions for a mild wing sauce? My kids don't do heat
For grilled wings—-bbq sauce works great. I generally water it down ever so slightly to be used for this purpose. Or Parmesan garlic is fantastic
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