Charges

[Shirley]

Et tu, Erick and Ben?

[jhawks99]

All the best people

[KUTradition]

https://salon.com/2023/06/20/worse-than ... heir-face/

[Shirley]

https://salon.com/2023/06/20/worse-than ... heir-face/

If only it made a difference to the fascists, I mean, republicans.

Hopefully any "Independents", assuming there still are any other than pdub left, will take note.

[Shirley]

Today In: "The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed" :

[jhawks99]

Today In: "The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed" :

Shirley's law

[DCHawk1]

I'm just sayin': if you've spent time on these boreds complaining about the inequities in the justice system and the racism inherent in the historical over-incarceration related to gun and drug cases, yet you're giggling about how Republicans are soooo butthurt that Hunter got a sweetheart deal, then...well...politics probably occupies an unhealthy position in your life.

[Sparko]

Nah. These are mostly charges that would never have been brought save for the neon "find something to prosecute him to death" sign.

[Shirley]

Nah. These are mostly charges that would never have been brought save for the neon "find something to prosecute him to death" sign.

^^^

Former SDNY Chief David Kelly said that charges wouldn't normally be filed for what Hunter did.

[DCHawk1]

OMG! You cereal, Clark?

And other former SDNY chief Andy McCarthy (the guy who prosecuted the Blind Sheik) said that "Democrats are not hiding the two-tiered justice system; they’re flaunting it . . . quite intentionally."

So...? Goodjobgoodpost?

[DCHawk1]

Indeed, as McCarthy notes:

Biden apologists have tried to minimize that transaction as a “lie and try” case, which they say is often not prosecuted. But such non-prosecution (though it shouldn’t happen) occurs because of what you’d infer from the “try” part — i.e., the liar got caught and failed to obtain the gun. Hunter’s case, to the contrary, is a lie and succeed case. He got the gun. What’s more, he was then seen playing with it while cavorting with an “escort” (see the New York Post’s pictorial, if you’ve got the stomach for it). Shortly afterwards, he and his then-paramour — Hallie Biden, the widow of his older brother — managed to lose the gun near a school (it was later found by someone else).

Those are the kinds of gun cases that get charged by the Justice Department even if the suspect hasn’t, in addition, committed tax felonies by dodging taxes on the millions of dollars he was paid, apparently for being named Biden. Yet after refusing for years to appoint a special counsel despite the five-alarm conflict of interest attendant to investigating the president’s son ( . . . and family . . . and the president himself), the Biden Justice Department is permitting Hunter Biden to dispose of the case with misdemeanor tax charges that will allow for a probation sentence, and diversion — essentially, no prosecution — on the gun felony that would result in imprisonment for most Americans who engaged in similar conduct.

[Shirley]

OMG! You cereal, Clark?

And other SDNY chief Andy McCarthy (the guy who prosecuted the Blind Sheik) said that "Democrats are not hiding the two-tiered justice system; they’re flaunting it . . . quite intentionally."

So...? Goodjobgoodpost?

^^^

I think we can all agree that the DOJ should spend another 5 years investigating Hunter, too.

[DCHawk1]

OMG! You cereal, Clark?

And other SDNY chief Andy McCarthy (the guy who prosecuted the Blind Sheik) said that "Democrats are not hiding the two-tiered justice system; they’re flaunting it . . . quite intentionally."

So...? Goodjobgoodpost?

^^^

I think we can all agree that the DOJ should spend another 5 years investigating Hunter, too.

Ok.

[Shirley]

It sounds like your problem is with the deal that was negotiated by a Trump-appointed US Attorney in Delaware, David Weiss, who said he had "ultimate authority over the matter", to decide "where, when, and whether to file charges". And, if the deal is so egregious, a federal judge, who I heard was also appointed by Trump, has to approve the deal, but can change it if s/he doesn't think it fits the charges.






BTW, Politico has an "alternative" version of what happened to the gun:

...In 2018, the wife of Hunter Biden’s late brother Beau allegedly found Hunter’s .38-caliber Colt revolver in his truck, disposed of it in a trash receptacle behind a Delaware grocery store and later returned to retrieve it, only to find it missing, according to a police report. Hunter Biden was in a romantic relationship with her at the time.

The Delaware State Police investigated out of concern that the missing gun could be used in a crime, but a man who regularly rummaged in the trash returned the weapon to authorities a few days later...

[ousdahl]

"You got Trump fer boolshit! Well...whatabout Hunter? We're gonna get him now too!"

[twocoach]

Indeed, as McCarthy notes:

Biden apologists have tried to minimize that transaction as a “lie and try” case, which they say is often not prosecuted. But such non-prosecution (though it shouldn’t happen) occurs because of what you’d infer from the “try” part — i.e., the liar got caught and failed to obtain the gun. Hunter’s case, to the contrary, is a lie and succeed case. He got the gun. What’s more, he was then seen playing with it while cavorting with an “escort” (see the New York Post’s pictorial, if you’ve got the stomach for it). Shortly afterwards, he and his then-paramour — Hallie Biden, the widow of his older brother — managed to lose the gun near a school (it was later found by someone else).

Those are the kinds of gun cases that get charged by the Justice Department even if the suspect hasn’t, in addition, committed tax felonies by dodging taxes on the millions of dollars he was paid, apparently for being named Biden. Yet after refusing for years to appoint a special counsel despite the five-alarm conflict of interest attendant to investigating the president’s son ( . . . and family . . . and the president himself), the Biden Justice Department is permitting Hunter Biden to dispose of the case with misdemeanor tax charges that will allow for a probation sentence, and diversion — essentially, no prosecution — on the gun felony that would result in imprisonment for most Americans who engaged in similar conduct.

Yea, OK. Pretty sure that there are ample examples of rich, white non-Bidens who get similar sentences for poor handling of guns that end up not being used in any crimes and for not paying taxes that they ended up just paying late.

Even more ridiculous,

"Hunter Biden was charged with violating a provision of 18 U.S. Code § 922 that prohibits anyone “who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance” from possessing a firearm"

How many times do you even SEE that charge made? Anyone see any other coked up rich white guys facing charges just for possessing a weapon they legally purchased and did not use to commit any crime? Half of Wall Street would be facing charges.

[DCHawk1]

Indeed, as McCarthy notes:

Biden apologists have tried to minimize that transaction as a “lie and try” case, which they say is often not prosecuted. But such non-prosecution (though it shouldn’t happen) occurs because of what you’d infer from the “try” part — i.e., the liar got caught and failed to obtain the gun. Hunter’s case, to the contrary, is a lie and succeed case. He got the gun. What’s more, he was then seen playing with it while cavorting with an “escort” (see the New York Post’s pictorial, if you’ve got the stomach for it). Shortly afterwards, he and his then-paramour — Hallie Biden, the widow of his older brother — managed to lose the gun near a school (it was later found by someone else).

Those are the kinds of gun cases that get charged by the Justice Department even if the suspect hasn’t, in addition, committed tax felonies by dodging taxes on the millions of dollars he was paid, apparently for being named Biden. Yet after refusing for years to appoint a special counsel despite the five-alarm conflict of interest attendant to investigating the president’s son ( . . . and family . . . and the president himself), the Biden Justice Department is permitting Hunter Biden to dispose of the case with misdemeanor tax charges that will allow for a probation sentence, and diversion — essentially, no prosecution — on the gun felony that would result in imprisonment for most Americans who engaged in similar conduct.

Yea, OK. Pretty sure that there are ample examples of rich, white non-Bidens who get similar sentences for poor handling of guns that end up not being used in any crimes and for not paying taxes that they ended up just paying late.

Even more ridiculous,

"Hunter Biden was charged with violating a provision of 18 U.S. Code § 922 that prohibits anyone “who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance” from possessing a firearm"

How many times do you even SEE that charge made? Anyone see any other coked up rich white guys facing charges just for possessing a weapon they legally purchased and did not use to commit any crime? Half of Wall Street would be facing charges.

So...what yer sayin' is that you think the two-tiered justice system is pretty great.

Good to know.

[DCHawk1]

It sounds like your problem is with the deal that was negotiated by a Trump-appointed US Attorney in Delaware, David Weiss, who said he had "ultimate authority over the matter", to decide "where, when, and whether to file charges". And, if the deal is so egregious, a federal judge, who I heard was also appointed by Trump, has to approve the deal, but can change it if s/he doesn't think it fits the charges.

Nah. My "problem" isn't with the deal. It's with the hippo-crits.

[jfish26]

It sounds like your problem is with the deal that was negotiated by a Trump-appointed US Attorney in Delaware, David Weiss, who said he had "ultimate authority over the matter", to decide "where, when, and whether to file charges". And, if the deal is so egregious, a federal judge, who I heard was also appointed by Trump, has to approve the deal, but can change it if s/he doesn't think it fits the charges.

Nah. My "problem" isn't with the deal. It's with the hippo-crits.

All of them? On both sides?

[DCHawk1]

It sounds like your problem is with the deal that was negotiated by a Trump-appointed US Attorney in Delaware, David Weiss, who said he had "ultimate authority over the matter", to decide "where, when, and whether to file charges". And, if the deal is so egregious, a federal judge, who I heard was also appointed by Trump, has to approve the deal, but can change it if s/he doesn't think it fits the charges.

Nah. My "problem" isn't with the deal. It's with the hippo-crits.

All of them? On both sides?

Sure. But mostly the ones on this board.