Uncle Joe

[Shirley]

[jfish26]

Vivek calling out bidens latest bullshit

Hi, still waiting for you to tell me the significance of LEOs being in the insurrection mobs.

There no reasoning with you. Make of it what you will. Anyone with an unbiased brain knows the left maximized and milked 1/6 for all it was worth. They let it happen to use it politically. Enticed it

I'm not asking for reasoning.

I'm asking for a straight answer to a simple question: what is the significance of LEOs being in the insurrection mobs?

[twocoach]

Vivek calling out bidens latest bullshit

How is it bullshit? Because some guy who benefits from calling anything he does "bullshit" said so?

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/1 ... 20Thursday.

It seems to be in response to the extended amount of time that active troops have been deployed in Europe as a means to ease that extended period of time while giving these reservists some support as they would be treated as active if deployed.

Not everything is a giant conspiracy or sign of problems. Sometimes it's just the guy in the Big Chair having to do things to manage what is needed.

OK. Let's hear your reasons for why this is a good thing?

Because a significant number of actively deployed members of the military stationed in Europe right now might be getting to the end of their deployment period and getting burnt out from being away from their families. Instead of grinding them into the ground, resulting in people leaving the military, Biden may be choosing to supplement the additional forces in the area with reservists. So it's a win for the active duty personnel who get a break and can come home and see their family instead of drop out of the military, leaving us with a shortage of service members.

[twocoach]

Vivek calling out bidens latest bullshit

Hi, still waiting for you to tell me the significance of LEOs being in the insurrection mobs.

There no reasoning with you. Make of it what you will. Anyone with an unbiased brain knows the left maximized and milked 1/6 for all it was worth. They let it happen to use it politically. Enticed it

"Let it happen...enticed it" Oh, this should be fascinating.

[defixione]

Randy is a bot.

[twocoach]

Randy is a bot.

Even worse than being a bot is being a bot's mouthpiece. If I hear something stupid somewhere else, I can guarantee that Randy will be here echoing that stupidity within 48 hours.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

It's complicated: (This article is available publicly,NPR, and what comes before and after this is instructive.)

3/30/2014 The Journey From 'Colored' To 'Minorities' To 'People Of Color'

"Person" or "people" as a term for human beings, that's pretty much uncontroversial. But color — which can be used as a noun, an adjective or a verb (transitive and intransitive) — is a word packed with history, prejudice and confusion when it's used to describe someone's complexion as an indication of race or ethnicity.

The adjective form — "colored" — we hardly need the OED to confirm, but it says the term is now:

"Usually considered offensive ... Coloured was adopted in the United States by emancipated slaves as a term of racial pride after the end of the American Civil War. It was rapidly replaced from the late 1960s as a self-designation by black and later by African-American, although it is retained in the name of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. In Britain it was the accepted term for black, Asian, or mixed-race people until the 1960s."

In a 1988 New York Times column about the phrase, the late great language maven William Safire pointed out that Martin Luther King Jr. referred to "citizens of color" in his speech at the 1963 March on Washington. Safire also quoted an NAACP spokesman:

" 'Times change and terms change. Racial designations go through phases; at one time Negro was accepted, at an earlier time colored and so on. This organization has been in existence for 80 years and the initials NAACP are part of the American vocabulary, firmly embedded in the national consciousness, and we feel it would not be to our benefit to change our name.' "
Safire continued in that 1988 essay:

"Colored people (which in South Africa means 'people of racially mixed ancestry') has in the United States a connotation different from people of color. ... Colored is often taken as a slur, even when not so intended, and so this term — first used with this meaning in 1611 by the historian John Speed as 'coloured countenances' — is better replaced by its synonym as noun and adjective, black. People of color, on the other hand, is a phrase encompassing all nonwhites. ... When used by whites, people of color usually carries a friendly and respectful connotation, but should not be used as a synonym for black; it refers to all racial groups that are not white."

[...]

Thanks Feral! That helps. A little bit.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Vivek calling out bidens latest bullshit

Hi, still waiting for you to tell me the significance of LEOs being in the insurrection mobs.

There no reasoning with you. Make of it what you will. Anyone with an unbiased brain knows the left maximized and milked 1/6 for all it was worth. They let it happen to use it politically. Enticed it

A. What does "reasoning" have to do with fish's question/request?
B. fish and I don't agree on a lot of things but I have generally found him to be reasonable.
C. Why haven't you directly answered his question/request?
D. Do you not think you have a biased brain?
E. The left may have "maximized" and "milked" 1/6 "for all it's worth" but tell us why you feel the right is better for minimizing 1/6.
F. The left "let" 1/6 happen? Really? You feel it's the left that exclusively "let it happen"?
G. You accuse the left of using it politically. Cool. Fair enough. Now tell us if you feel the right used 1/6 "politically".
H. Do you feel the left "enticed" 1/6 more than the right did? If so, why? Because you're an ignorant fuck who believed and still believes ALL the shit Trump claimed/still claims and because of it you blame the left for what happened on 1/6?

[JKLivin]

I have to wonder how many of those are people who would have been able to retire or stay retired in a good economy. I also wonder how many people are working multiple jobs. The economy is a train wreck, no matter how hard they try to spin it.

[Mjl]

By which metrics?

[KUTradition]

a quick google search indicates that about 5% of Americans are working 2 jobs

contrast that with 2019, where the estimate was 16.4%

[randylahey]

My favorite spin on the economy is good is talking about low unemployment rates or added jobs

People are working 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet these days lol

[jfish26]

Hi, still waiting for you to tell me the significance of LEOs being in the insurrection mobs.

There no reasoning with you. Make of it what you will. Anyone with an unbiased brain knows the left maximized and milked 1/6 for all it was worth. They let it happen to use it politically. Enticed it

A. What does "reasoning" have to do with fish's question/request?
B. fish and I don't agree on a lot of things but I have generally found him to be reasonable.
C. Why haven't you directly answered his question/request?
D. Do you not think you have a biased brain?
E. The left may have "maximized" and "milked" 1/6 "for all it's worth" but tell us why you feel the right is better for minimizing 1/6.
F. The left "let" 1/6 happen? Really? You feel it's the left that exclusively "let it happen"?
G. You accuse the left of using it politically. Cool. Fair enough. Now tell us if you feel the right used 1/6 "politically".
H. Do you feel the left "enticed" 1/6 more than the right did? If so, why? Because you're an ignorant fuck who believed and still believes ALL the shit Trump claimed/still claims and because of it you blame the left for what happened on 1/6?

I just love the Rube* Goldbergian leftist machine that exists in galaxy brain here. So the left is so cunning and devious and manipulative that it purposefully came within a [blank]-hair of handing a lifetime term to Trump, all to…make Trump look bad?

If Occam’s Razor holds (broadly) that the simplest explanation is usually the right one…what’s the opposite of that?

Rube’s Razor: If the simplest explanation isn’t favorable to me, then iterate on increasingly-bizarre explanations until there is one that is utterly unprovable (if even coherently explainable)?

* lol

[jfish26]

a quick google search indicates that about 5% of Americans are working 2 jobs

contrast that with 2019, where the estimate was 16.4%

Discerning signal from noise is appropriate.

We’re still seeing a massive shakeout wrought from the combination of (1) Covid shutdowns causing (broadly) a whole lot of people to rethink how they go about providing for themselves/their families, and (2) right/wrong/otherwise, labor’s position weakening such that more and more people find themselves working as 1099s rather than W-2s.

[KUTradition]

a quick google search indicates that about 5% of Americans are working 2 jobs

contrast that with 2019, where the estimate was 16.4%

Discerning signal from noise is appropriate.

We’re still seeing a massive shakeout wrought from the combination of (1) Covid shutdowns causing (broadly) a whole lot of people to rethink how they go about providing for themselves/their families, and (2) right/wrong/otherwise, labor’s position weakening such that more and more people find themselves working as 1099s rather than W-2s.

tbh, i didn’t look into it much

my point was that if psych truly cared, rather than just trying to insinuate something into being, he coulda found the information for himself

[randylahey]

How is it bullshit? Because some guy who benefits from calling anything he does "bullshit" said so?

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/1 ... 20Thursday.

It seems to be in response to the extended amount of time that active troops have been deployed in Europe as a means to ease that extended period of time while giving these reservists some support as they would be treated as active if deployed.

Not everything is a giant conspiracy or sign of problems. Sometimes it's just the guy in the Big Chair having to do things to manage what is needed.

OK. Let's hear your reasons for why this is a good thing?

Because a significant number of actively deployed members of the military stationed in Europe right now might be getting to the end of their deployment period and getting burnt out from being away from their families. Instead of grinding them into the ground, resulting in people leaving the military, Biden may be choosing to supplement the additional forces in the area with reservists. So it's a win for the active duty personnel who get a break and can come home and see their family instead of drop out of the military, leaving us with a shortage of service members.

Or...

[Mjl]

My favorite spin on the economy is good is talking about low unemployment rates or added jobs

People are working 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet these days lol

You have numbers to back that up?

[dolomite]

And we still have a “tight” labor market, (more jobs available than workers).

[DCHawk1]

I'm asking for a straight answer to a simple question: what is the significance of LEOs being in the insurrection mobs?

It's potentially significant in 2 instances.

First, it's significant if the FBI Director lied under oath about it to Congress.

Second, it's significant if LEOs instigated action rather than merely observing it.

The first we know. (Wray lied). The second is likely unknowable -- unless they can somehow prove that Ray Epps was a Fed.

Beyond that, I would HOPE there were LEOs in the crowd. Seems irresponsible not to have them on the ground, acting on intelligence.

[JKLivin]

By which metrics?

Case in point: We advertised to replace my admin assistant. It is 20 hours a week at $13 an hour, with work from home flexibility. Normally, we’d get one or two applicants and settle for the least objectionable. This time around, I sifted through 43 applications, half of which were people with Master’s degrees. About 2/3 said they were looking for a second or third job because food and utilities had gotten so expensive. Yay?