2024

[ousdahl]

Man, Harris.

Has she done anything to endear herself to anyone since becoming veep?

[KUTradition]

she’s a ghost

[twocoach]

Man, Harris.

Has she done anything to endear herself to anyone since becoming veep?

Has any VP? Maybe decades ago when they didn't dare open their mouths at all.People act like it's unusual or something in today's DC. It's the norm, who cares.

[TDub]

Man, Harris.

Has she done anything to endear herself to anyone since becoming veep?

Has any VP? Maybe decades ago when they didn't dare open their mouths at all.People act like it's unusual or something in today's DC. It's the norm, who cares.

I can't recall a lesson visible VP in my lifetime though. She seems to be nowhere and do nothing.

[KUTradition]

Mittens is trying…

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donors-don ... p-ccf632b9

[ousdahl]

Man, Harris.

Has she done anything to endear herself to anyone since becoming veep?

Has any VP? Maybe decades ago when they didn't dare open their mouths at all.People act like it's unusual or something in today's DC. It's the norm, who cares.

Has any VP?

Good question!

There was that moment in our nation’s history when Dick Cheney captured our hearts, I guess?

But yea. Veeps do tend to be a second fiddle kinda role.

With that said, yea, Kamala seems even quieter than your average vp

[Sparko]

Harris has been working on central American investment to end massive migration. And has done well. More, I should note, than any of us here.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... l-america/

[TDub]

well I certainly hope she would have done more than any of us here considering we are little old kcrimmers and she's the effing vice president. What a silly comparison

[Shirley]

As I expressed previously, because I haven't been convinced that Harris has "it", I have a sense of foreboding about the '28 election, concerning what happens with the most reliable demographic of democratic voters, Black women, if Harris isn't the candidate.

That being said, one of the byproducts of the republicans realizing their decades old fever-dream of national forced birth, along with DeFascist's racist rewriting of history books in Floreeeeduh announced a few days ago, has provided Kamala an opportunity to take on subjects that come naturally to her, and that she has a personal stake in. Taking the lead on these issues resonates not only with Blacks, but with all demos, especially the ever-increasing # younger voters referred to in jfish's article. Here she is in Florida a few days ago:

[ousdahl]

Harris has been working on central American investment to end massive migration. And has done well. More, I should note, than any of us here.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... l-america/

I know I’m annoying and should just shut up, but heck I’ll bite.

Are we sure thst what northern Central America needs to address the root causes of migration, is more “Private Sector Commitments?”

Heck, northern Central America had plenty of private sector commitments from the United Fruit Company, and look how that went.

[KUTradition]

what would you suggest?

improving the situations in those countries gets at the root of why most of the migrants come, rather than just putting a bandaid in the issue once they’re already at our border

[KUTradition]

During World War II, General Dwight D. Eisenhower would have his staff study certain problems and then present their conclusions to those who were specialists in that particular area. Sometimes, a member of the latter group would disagree with the recommended action. “But this was not acceptable to General Eisenhower,” one of the men close to him remembered, “who held that to disagree in itself was insufficient unless the officer so disposed could come up with something better. Therefore a more adequate plan had to be submitted when disapproval was recommended.”

To criticize without offering an alternative is too easy.

[ousdahl]

I suggest something other than “private sector commitments,” which I’m afeared may be a euphemism for some kinda neocolonialism.

I kinda doubt these champions of the private sector are doing it for the benefit of the people of northern Central America.

They’re more likely doing it in an infinite consumption kinda way, a potential new market kinda way, an untapped resources kinda way, a more business friendly regulations down there kinda way?

We’re talking capitalists here. Their end game is not to improve conditions for other people, it’s their own accumulation of wealth.

Or, are they actually affording some robust living wages for these northern Central Americans?

If that’s the case, then why not just afford robust living wages for northern North Americans first?

[ousdahl]

Dangit that last part makes it sound too Canadian

[KUTradition]

so, you got nothin

thanks for playing

[twocoach]

so, you got nothin

thanks for playing

He seems to be worried that the companies investing millions might also financially benefit from the agreements and then continue to invest there.

SMH

[ousdahl]

Man.

I got nothin?

You guys, I’m not the one addressing a migrant refugee crisis and saying, “know what this situation needs? More free markets!”

[twocoach]

Man.

I got nothin?

You guys, I’m not the one addressing a migrant refugee crisis and saying, “know what this situation needs? More free markets!”

It's "you know what people need so that their only good options for work aren't to walk 1,000 miles to the US? More jobs where they live."

[TDub]

As I expressed previously, because I haven't been convinced that Harris has "it", I have a sense of foreboding about the '28 election, concerning what happens with the most reliable demographic of democratic voters, Black women, if Harris isn't the candidate.

That being said, one of the byproducts of the republicans realizing their decades old fever-dream of national forced birth, along with DeFascist's racist rewriting of history books in Floreeeeduh announced a few days ago, has provided Kamala an opportunity to take on subjects that come naturally to her, and that she has a personal stake in. Taking the lead on these issues resonates not only with Blacks, but with all demos, especially the ever-increasing # younger voters referred to in jfish's article. Here she is in Florida a few days ago:

28 can't be worse. Hopefully Donald and Joe will be irrelevant by then and we can move on from this circus.

[TDub]

I suggest something other than “private sector commitments,” which I’m afeared may be a euphemism for some kinda neocolonialism.

I kinda doubt these champions of the private sector are doing it for the benefit of the people of northern Central America.

They’re more likely doing it in an infinite consumption kinda way, a potential new market kinda way, an untapped resources kinda way, a more business friendly regulations down there kinda way?

We’re talking capitalists here. Their end game is not to improve conditions for other people, it’s their own accumulation of wealth.

Or, are they actually affording some robust living wages for these northern Central Americans?

If that’s the case, then why not just afford robust living wages for northern North Americans first?

when you move to Russia, watch out for the windows. I hear they can be tricky to navigate.