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Psych and Randy are filled with so much hate. I would hope that they can get past the traumatic experiences of their youth but hate is a comfortable niche--no commitment to empathy or compassion--and a lot easier than making oneself vulnerable to the truth.
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I don't hate anybody. I'm also dubious that one could make that kind of deep-level assessment of another human being based on a few posts made on a message bored. If that were the case, there are a lot of people here - yourself included - who have demonstrated that they are hate-filled by the insults and name-calling they engage in on a daily basis.defixione wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:13 am Psych and Randy are filled with so much hate. I would hope that they can get past the traumatic experiences of their youth but hate is a comfortable niche--no commitment to empathy or compassion--and a lot easier than making oneself vulnerable to the truth.
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Why does he alone get the blame for it though? When just maintaining what happened under Clinton, Bush, and ObamaRainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:40 amIt's/was not the "same things".randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:28 amDid trump personally lock a kid up in a dog kennel?
You do realize that when children snuck over as illegal immigrants and were held in custody, it was done so under immigration policies established in the 90s under Bill Clinton? And the same things happened under Obama and Bush too
Regardless, many/most/all "things" sucked.
Sorry, Trump doesn't get a free pass because people/someone did the wrong "things" in the past too.
Trump had elaborate plans to deincentivise and prevent illegal immigration. Which would have stopped the issue at the root.
Instead of incentivizing illegal immigration, as the left does now
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Yeah, I've made some posts I shouldn't have. You've got 20 years of posts spewing hate. The biggest difference is that I felt bad after I posted mine and you've never shown any indication of that.JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:35 amI don't hate anybody. I'm also dubious that one could make that kind of deep-level assessment of another human being based on a few posts made on a message bored. If that were the case, there are a lot of people here - yourself included - who have demonstrated that they are hate-filled by the insults and name-calling they engage in on a daily basis.defixione wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:13 am Psych and Randy are filled with so much hate. I would hope that they can get past the traumatic experiences of their youth but hate is a comfortable niche--no commitment to empathy or compassion--and a lot easier than making oneself vulnerable to the truth.
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a fat mouthing internet jack@$$ is a fat mouthing internet jack@$$. it don’t matter how you vote.
at this particular location, almost all fat mouthing internet jack@$$es identify as democrats. therefore, almost all of the internet jack@$$es are democrats.
it’s a numbers thing.
at this particular location, almost all fat mouthing internet jack@$$es identify as democrats. therefore, almost all of the internet jack@$$es are democrats.
it’s a numbers thing.
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He absolutely did not "just maintain" what happened under previous administrations. That is a bold faced lie. His zero tolerance and family separation policies were drastically different and far more inhumane.randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:41 amWhy does he alone get the blame for it though? When just maintaining what happened under Clinton, Bush, and ObamaRainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:40 amIt's/was not the "same things".randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:28 am
Did trump personally lock a kid up in a dog kennel?
You do realize that when children snuck over as illegal immigrants and were held in custody, it was done so under immigration policies established in the 90s under Bill Clinton? And the same things happened under Obama and Bush too
Regardless, many/most/all "things" sucked.
Sorry, Trump doesn't get a free pass because people/someone did the wrong "things" in the past too.
Trump had elaborate plans to deincentivise and prevent illegal immigration. Which would have stopped the issue at the root.
Instead of incentivizing illegal immigration, as the left does now
"Which would have stopped the issue at the root" is also fundamentally wrong. Like most of the rest of his policies, the changes that Trump made were temporary in nature and meant to make the numbers look good on his watch while not being sustainable for the future.
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Trump had elaborate plans to deincentivise and prevent illegal immigration.
such as?
such as?
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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I beg to differ. I recognized that my posts were hateful and combative years ago, and like you, felt bad about it. I have not engaged in that sort of behavior for quite some time. If you want to judge me based on the person I was 10 years ago, that's fine. I'm just pointing out the facts.defixione wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:46 amYeah, I've made some posts I shouldn't have. You've got 20 years of posts spewing hate. The biggest difference is that I felt bad after I posted mine and you've never shown any indication of that.JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:35 amI don't hate anybody. I'm also dubious that one could make that kind of deep-level assessment of another human being based on a few posts made on a message bored. If that were the case, there are a lot of people here - yourself included - who have demonstrated that they are hate-filled by the insults and name-calling they engage in on a daily basis.defixione wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:13 am Psych and Randy are filled with so much hate. I would hope that they can get past the traumatic experiences of their youth but hate is a comfortable niche--no commitment to empathy or compassion--and a lot easier than making oneself vulnerable to the truth.
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something about tigers and stripes…leopards and spots…
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Ending policies that incencivized illegal immigration. Such as guaranteed citizenship to children of illegals born on our soil. Oh and building a fucking wall, which obviously would have been a huge deterrentKUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:08 pm Trump had elaborate plans to deincentivise and prevent illegal immigration.
such as?
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you mean this wall?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... -breached/
https://thehill.com/changing-america/re ... eated/amp/
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -smugglers
talk about elaborate…
and birthright citizenship has been a 100-year plus standing interpretation of the 14th Amendment
so, he was all talk and no show…except for changes to LEGAL immigration
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... -breached/
https://thehill.com/changing-america/re ... eated/amp/
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -smugglers
talk about elaborate…
and birthright citizenship has been a 100-year plus standing interpretation of the 14th Amendment
so, he was all talk and no show…except for changes to LEGAL immigration
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VGR!randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:53 pmEnding policies that incencivized illegal immigration. Such as guaranteed citizenship to children of illegals born on our soil. Oh and building a fucking wall, which obviously would have been a huge deterrentKUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:08 pm Trump had elaborate plans to deincentivise and prevent illegal immigration.
such as?
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New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
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Trump had 4 years to try to end birthright citizenship. So why didn't he try it via Executive Order like he claims he will on Day 1 of his second administration?randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:53 pmEnding policies that incencivized illegal immigration. Such as guaranteed citizenship to children of illegals born on our soil. Oh and building a fucking wall, which obviously would have been a huge deterrentKUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:08 pm Trump had elaborate plans to deincentivise and prevent illegal immigration.
such as?
Because he has likely been told that it will probably take an Amendment to the Constitution to redefine what makes a US citizen a US citizen and he will never get that to pass.
As for the wall...give me a freaking break with that stupidity. Calling that a huge deterrent is a joke. It was nothing more than a huge waste of time and money.
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The wall never happened. There was never federal funding to build a proper uniform wall. Walls work. Vgr gets it
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ok, dumdum
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that’s a whole lotta wall that “never happened”
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Fragmented peices of a half assed wall. Cool
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Then there was also the incidence where Katie Hobbs, newly elected Democrat, made one of her first moves to tear down part of the wall in Arizona
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you said it didn’t happen
it very obviously did
it’s not my fault you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about
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No it didn't. The federal government never approved funding for one big universal wall. Trump's wall never happenedKUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:42 pmyou said it didn’t happen
it very obviously did
it’s not my fault you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about
There's just fragmented pieces states/counties have done on their own. They aren't universal. Different designs, different quality sections. Not the wall that was intended. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about