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zsn wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:42 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:35 am It doesn't take 8 years of political targeting if something legit is there. We are on year 8 of trump derangement obsession
Do the words methodical, thorough and meticulous mean anything to you? It’s also not like the coconspirators were lining up to provide testimony.

Who do you think won the 2020 Presidential Election?
We're also talking about conduct occurring within...checks notes...the last three years. Not exactly scraping the microfiche archives here.
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Trump is probably the people's best chance against the deep state machine the rules over us. Most of you are too naive to admit it. It's been in place for decades. The deep state is powerful and every move they make is the further cement their power
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Authoritarian.

Reductions in the rule of law.
See Trump's record amount of indictments.

Rejection of the separation of powers.
See Trump's stacking of the Supreme Court.

Disbandment of the Democratic process and vote.
See the months before and since Jan 6th 2021.

"...scholars tend to identify authoritarian political leaders based on certain tactics, such as: politicizing independent institutions, spreading disinformation, aggrandizing executive power, quashing dissent, targeting vulnerable communities, stoking violence, and corrupting elections."

Um. Check. Check. Check. Check. Check. Check.
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if these never ending, go nowhere, for theatrical purposes only investigations accomplish nothing more than keeping uncle joe and dt from the wh in 24. they will have been worth it. whateverittakes.
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randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:59 am Trump is probably the people's best chance against the deep state machine the rules over us. Most of you are too naive to admit it. It's been in place for decades. The deep state is powerful and every move they make is the further cement their power
Explain said deep state in detail without using disreputable sources.

1. How does it work?
How do they communicate? How do they keep from being discovered? Is it global? How can they be sure every single person who has power is on board with policy? Are there lizard people?

2. Who is in charge?
Is there an election, like a deep state election? Are you born into it? What stops a single person from leaking the info? Is there a lizard king?

3. How do you know this?
Like, for real? How do you know for sure?
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pdub wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:07 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:59 am Trump is probably the people's best chance against the deep state machine the rules over us. Most of you are too naive to admit it. It's been in place for decades. The deep state is powerful and every move they make is the further cement their power
Explain said deep state in detail without using disreputable sources.

1. How does it work?
How do they communicate? How do they keep from being discovered? Is it global? How can they be sure every single person who has power is on board with policy? Are there lizard people?

2. Who is in charge?
Is there an election, like a deep state election? Are you born into it? What stops a single person from leaking the info? Is there a lizard king?

3. How do you know this?
Like, for real? How do you know for sure?
Very real. Intelligence agencies like the Cia fbi etc. It's not hidden or a conspiracy
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And there's global influence all over it. From the rich and powerful. And global entities like the WEF
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So far, nothing answered.
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pdub wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:07 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:59 am Trump is probably the people's best chance against the deep state machine the rules over us. Most of you are too naive to admit it. It's been in place for decades. The deep state is powerful and every move they make is the further cement their power
Explain said deep state in detail without using disreputable sources.

1. How does it work?
How do they communicate? How do they keep from being discovered? Is it global? How can they be sure every single person who has power is on board with policy? Are there lizard people?

2. Who is in charge?
Is there an election, like a deep state election? Are you born into it? What stops a single person from leaking the info? Is there a lizard king?

3. How do you know this?
Like, for real? How do you know for sure?
You will never get anything approaching precision or reason here.

You'll get sweeping "I don't have to show my work, it's so obvious", OR, "you want evidence, here is some circular, navel-gazing web I've spun involving the Freemasons, Hunter Biden's laptop, The Price is Right showcase values and an assortment of alphabet soup agencies".
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randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:59 am Trump is probably the people's best chance against the deep state machine the rules over us. Most of you are too naive to admit it. It's been in place for decades. The deep state is powerful and every move they make is the further cement their power
Good grief.

Said "Deep State" is nothing more than a bunch of uber wealthy power brokers nation/worldwide. It's a world that Trump wished he belonged to but they have long been smart enough to identify Trump as a fraud and refuse him admittance to their world. To think Trump has any chance to "beat them" is hilarious. Trump is an incompetent moron who has no chance of outsmarting or outmaneuvering those people. All Trump has done is try to grift off of the nation to make himself more appealing to those with the real power because he wishes more than anything to be seen as one of them. But if being President of the greatest nation on earth wasn't enough to get him into the club then you'd think he'd get the hint but he is incapable of admitting reality.

They do not "rule over us" but their influence and decisions affect us all. The notion that there is some sort of way that that can be changed is fundamentally stupid. The people with all the money run the world and there will always be people with all the money.

Your biggest problem is that you think that everyone in a position of power who does things you don't like is part of the Deep State. It's as corny as saying that everyone who votes for Donald Trump is a racist. Sorry that you don't like that there are more important people out there than you who make decisions that may negatively affect your life but that will never change. Welcome to reality.
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pdub wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:22 am So far, nothing answered.
You have to remember, these people believe that Wayfair was selling sex slaves.
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"They do not "rule over us" but their influence and decisions affect us all."

Yes.
And most of us know and understand this.
It's not some secret organization - it's just wealthy as fuck assholes trying as much as they can to manipulate government policy. Some of them likely talk to each other and meet. And all do so privately so avoid legal repercussion and public scrutiny. And then there's certain politicians that either want to be bought ( corrupt and just want access to money/power ) or need to be bought ( to win another election ).

Biden isn't in some dark secret chamber wearing a red robe hanging out with the director of the FBI discussing next steps to stop the randy's of the world while drinking infant blood.
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twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:24 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:59 am Trump is probably the people's best chance against the deep state machine the rules over us. Most of you are too naive to admit it. It's been in place for decades. The deep state is powerful and every move they make is the further cement their power
Good grief.

Said "Deep State" is nothing more than a bunch of uber wealthy power brokers nation/worldwide. It's a world that Trump wished he belonged to but they have long been smart enough to identify Trump as a fraud and refuse him admittance to their world. To think Trump has any chance to "beat them" is hilarious. Trump is an incompetent moron who has no chance of outsmarting or outmaneuvering those people. All Trump has done is try to grift off of the nation to make himself more appealing to those with the real power because he wishes more than anything to be seen as one of them. But if being President of the greatest nation on earth wasn't enough to get him into the club then you'd think he'd get the hint but he is incapable of admitting reality.

They do not "rule over us" but their influence and decisions affect us all. The notion that there is some sort of way that that can be changed is fundamentally stupid. The people with all the money run the world and there will always be people with all the money.

Your biggest problem is that you think that everyone in a position of power who does things you don't like is part of the Deep State. It's as corny as saying that everyone who votes for Donald Trump is a racist. Sorry that you don't like that there are more important people out there than you who make decisions that may negatively affect your life but that will never change. Welcome to reality.
I agree with parts of this. But trump managed to won in 2016. And 2020 took a ridiculous set of circumstances for him to lose. Companies like Blackrock and the families that pull the strings behind it went all out

Magnified racism and covid into unrealistic problems and somehow convinced people both were trumps fault and to vote against him to solve it

And they fundamentally changed the way votes were cast and began vote harvesting like we've never seen before
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pdub wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:22 am So far, nothing answered.
He won’t even tell you who won the 2020 Presidential election.
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And then there's china...

Biden is everything china wants and then some. Their influence over the US government is ridiculous right now. They are succeeding in displacing this country as the world super power. And weakening Russia at the same time
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randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:31 am
twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:24 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:59 am Trump is probably the people's best chance against the deep state machine the rules over us. Most of you are too naive to admit it. It's been in place for decades. The deep state is powerful and every move they make is the further cement their power
Good grief.

Said "Deep State" is nothing more than a bunch of uber wealthy power brokers nation/worldwide. It's a world that Trump wished he belonged to but they have long been smart enough to identify Trump as a fraud and refuse him admittance to their world. To think Trump has any chance to "beat them" is hilarious. Trump is an incompetent moron who has no chance of outsmarting or outmaneuvering those people. All Trump has done is try to grift off of the nation to make himself more appealing to those with the real power because he wishes more than anything to be seen as one of them. But if being President of the greatest nation on earth wasn't enough to get him into the club then you'd think he'd get the hint but he is incapable of admitting reality.

They do not "rule over us" but their influence and decisions affect us all. The notion that there is some sort of way that that can be changed is fundamentally stupid. The people with all the money run the world and there will always be people with all the money.

Your biggest problem is that you think that everyone in a position of power who does things you don't like is part of the Deep State. It's as corny as saying that everyone who votes for Donald Trump is a racist. Sorry that you don't like that there are more important people out there than you who make decisions that may negatively affect your life but that will never change. Welcome to reality.
I agree with parts of this. But trump managed to won in 2016. And 2020 took a ridiculous set of circumstances for him to lose. Companies like Blackrock and the families that pull the strings behind it went all out

Magnified racism and covid into unrealistic problems and somehow convinced people both were trumps fault and to vote against him to solve it

And they fundamentally changed the way votes were cast and began vote harvesting like we've never seen before
Most of what you just posted is ridiculous.

Keep in mind that the "wealthiest people in the world" according to Forbes is kind of a joke. Their list doesn't include the Saudi Royal Family. Their wealth and the wealth of their holdings puts guys like Arnaud, Musk and Bezos to shame.
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zsn wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:33 am
pdub wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:22 am So far, nothing answered.
He won’t even tell you who won the 2020 Presidential election.
Biden won the damn election. I've never said he didn't. I've only said there were a ridiculous set of circumstances manufactured leading into that election. And it was beyond shady how they manipulated people into getting those votes
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randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:35 am
zsn wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:33 am
pdub wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:22 am So far, nothing answered.
He won’t even tell you who won the 2020 Presidential election.
Biden won the damn election. I've never said he didn't. I've only said there were a ridiculous set of circumstances manufactured leading into that election. And it was beyond shady how they manipulated people into getting those votes
Total BS. All of it. You've simply joined an alternate universe to support the fact that not everyone buys into Trump's grift.
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pdub wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:29 am "They do not "rule over us" but their influence and decisions affect us all."

Yes.
And most of us know and understand this.
It's not some secret organization - it's just wealthy as fuck assholes trying as much as they can to manipulate government policy. Some of them likely talk to each other and meet. And all do so privately so avoid legal repercussion and public scrutiny. And then there's certain politicians that either want to be bought ( corrupt and just want access to money/power ) or need to be bought ( to win another election ).

Biden isn't in some dark secret chamber wearing a red robe hanging out with the director of the FBI discussing next steps to stop the randy's of the world while drinking infant blood.
for some reason, harlan crow’s name just popped into my head

coincidence, i’m sure
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:37 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:35 am
zsn wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:33 am

He won’t even tell you who won the 2020 Presidential election.
Biden won the damn election. I've never said he didn't. I've only said there were a ridiculous set of circumstances manufactured leading into that election. And it was beyond shady how they manipulated people into getting those votes
Total BS. All of it. You've simply joined an alternate universe to support the fact that not everyone buys into Trump's grift.
Which part is bs? Did you not notice how 2020 played out
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