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you know what’s crazy?

the situation in the southwest has been so bad this summer that the iconic saguaro cactuses are dying

not to mention all the Joshua Trees that have been scorched by the recent fire
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That sounds fair, let the free market sort it out.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/texas-po ... p_catchall
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japhy wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:31 pm That sounds fair, let the free market sort it out.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/texas-po ... p_catchall
Good news is that with less government regulation that this type if price gouging will be the norm. You want it, you got it Texas.
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lotta sun in Texas.

Won't be long before solar panels are the far cheaper option.

In a way, that is the free market working. Both for pushing towards the best financial move but also the best overall move.

someday I will have solar at my place. If my energy costs were that high I would already have made it a priority.
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We have about 285 days of sunshine in the SLV. There are several large solar farms out there. On multiple days last summer the amount of electricity produced in the valley exceeded the amount consumed. We are building our new residence as all electric. When we put solar panels on the roof and add a storage battery our utility bills will go down to near the monthly minimum charge for being on the grid.
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This goes here, right?

https://www.ft.com/content/a9815bca-1b9 ... ede77ba06a


US government scientists have achieved net energy gain in a fusion reaction for the second time, a result that is set to fuel optimism that progress is being made towards the dream of limitless, zero-carbon power.

Physicists have since the 1950s sought to harness the fusion reaction that powers the sun, but until December no group had been able to produce more energy from the reaction than it consumes — a condition also known as ignition.

Researchers at the federal Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, who achieved ignition for the first time last year, repeated the breakthrough in an experiment on July 30 that produced a higher energy output than in December, according to three people with knowledge of the preliminary results.

The laboratory confirmed that energy gain had been achieved again at its laser facility, adding that analysis of the results was underway.
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Sounds like good news.
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it’ll be interesting to see what happens between now and next march, when the El Niño is supposed to be strongest
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Climate complacency is killing [all of] us

https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-envi ... ng-us/amp/
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38 years ago. Prescient is too mild a word.

Carl Sagan testifying before Congress in 1985 on climate change

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alcoholics surprised with cirrhosis
smokers surprised with lung cancer
daily cake eaters surprised with obesity

when will the surprised end.
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ousdahl wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:24 am In a first, a climate lawsuit from young people is going to trial

https://www.mtpr.org/montana-news/2023- ... mate-trial

Sixteen young people who say the state isn’t doing enough to address climate change will get their day in court Monday. The lawsuit argues that lack of action violates plaintiffs’ rights under the state Constitution. This is the first youth climate lawsuit to ever make it all the way to trial in the U.S.

Increasingly hot temperatures have eroded fishing opportunities statewide as angling closures during the hottest part of the day have become more common. The state Constitution, written in 1972, explicitly says citizens have the right to “a clean and healthful environment.”

That’s one reason this case has made it all the way to trial. Young people nationwide have filed dozens of lawsuits about climate change since 2015, but none have actually been heard in court until now.

In Held v. State of Montana, the plaintiffs asked the court to confirm that Montana's pro-fossil fuel policies, which include a law that bars state agencies from considering environmental impacts when permitting energy projects, contributed to climate change and are a constitutional violation.

Judge Kathy Seeley agreed, and said in a 103-page order Monday that the law prohibiting the consideration of emissions is unconstitutional and that the plaintiffs "have a fundamental constitutional right to a clean and healthful environment, which includes climate as part of the environmental life-support system."

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Judge rules in favor of Montana youths in landmark climate decision

In the first ruling of its kind nationwide, a Montana state court decided Monday in favor of young people who alleged the state violated their right to a “clean and healthful environment” by promoting the use of fossil fuels.

The court determined that a provision in the Montana Environmental Policy Act has harmed the state’s environment and the young plaintiffs by preventing Montana from considering the climate impacts of energy projects. The provision is accordingly unconstitutional, the court said.

“This is a huge win for Montana, for youth, for democracy and for our climate,” said Julia Olson, the executive director of Our Children’s Trust, which brought the case. “More rulings like this will certainly come.”

The sweeping win, one of the strongest decisions on climate change ever issued by a court, could energize the environmental movement and usher in a wave of cases aimed at advancing action on climate change, experts say.

The ruling — which invalidates the provision blocking climate considerations — also represents a rare victory for climate activists who have tried to use the courts to push back against government policies and industrial activities they say are harming the planet. In this case, it involved 16 young Montanans, ranging in age from 5 to 22, who brought the nation’s first constitutional and first youth-led climate lawsuit to go to trial. Those youths are elated by the decision, according to Our Children’s Trust.

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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Feral wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:39 pm 38 years ago. Prescient is too mild a word.

Carl Sagan testifying before Congress in 1985 on climate change

I love listening to Carl’s voice, mesmerizing and somewhat haunting along the lines of Sir Winston Churchill and Lowell Thomas.
To reverse global warming Sagen mentioned the word “if” the biggest three CO2 emitters (China, U.S.,Russia)can work together. I’ve yet to see it happen, I guess one has to have faith.
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KUTradition wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:06 am
KUTradition wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:05 pm you said it was a conceited notion that human activities could change the earth’s temperature

do you still think this way?
I meant reversing global warming.
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Apparently the people of Ecuador just rejected oil drilling in their rain forest as the result of a direct democratic vote
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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