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twocoach wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:58 am
KUTradition wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:35 am
twocoach wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:27 am

Is it lab grown chicken meat or meat harvested from lab grown chickens? I need to do a little research. It would certainly be nice if we could have chicken meat without having to devote a bunch of land to chicken farms and feed corn and all the waste and fuel it takes to grow and process them.
it’s lab-grown from chicken cells

the process isn’t all that different from growing bacteria or fungi in a petri dish. chicken stem cells are cultured in a media rich in amino acids and carbohydrates, which promotes muscle fiber growth. that’s why/how the consistency matches that of “natural” chicken breast
It probably has no less "weird science shit" in it than all the weird shit that goes through regular chickens from egg to plate.
it’ll probably have less, actually, when you account for added hormones and antibiotics in commercial meat animals
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twocoach wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:27 am
KUTradition wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:54 pm so, who’s up for some lab-grown chicken?
Is it lab grown chicken meat or meat harvested from lab grown chickens? I need to do a little research. It would certainly be nice if we could have chicken meat without having to devote a bunch of land to chicken farms and feed corn and all the waste and fuel it takes to grow and process them.

EDIT: https://apnews.com/article/cultivated-m ... 1cdbf6b39a
a bunch of land for chicken farms? lol
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KUTradition wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:21 pm
twocoach wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:58 am
KUTradition wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:35 am
it’s lab-grown from chicken cells

the process isn’t all that different from growing bacteria or fungi in a petri dish. chicken stem cells are cultured in a media rich in amino acids and carbohydrates, which promotes muscle fiber growth. that’s why/how the consistency matches that of “natural” chicken breast
It probably has no less "weird science shit" in it than all the weird shit that goes through regular chickens from egg to plate.
it’ll probably have less, actually, when you account for added hormones and antibiotics in commercial meat animals
my goal....in 3 years or less, is to be able to provide all of my families meat without buying any meat from the grocery store. No hormones less plastics etc.

im closing in on having areas for 2-3 cows, 3-4 pigs, 30+ chickens, rabbits if desired.

combine that with a deer every year or 2 and an elk every couple years.....should be more than enough. raise, kill, process, freeze and sell the extra.

My calculations are that I should be able to earn enough from the meat sales to nearly cover the costs of winter feed and processing for my portion.


We shall see how it works but I think its doable.

My garden is also being retilled and reprepped this fall to triple in size and should also produce 70ish percent of my veggies and maybe 40% of my fruit.


grains and breads will be the main grocery store needs.
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Good luck with that! Sounds like work, but...
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I dont mind that sorta work at all....thats just living. life is work. time consuming though?....yes...very.

working on the kids understanding food.....they dont want me to kill our chickens....but they love chicken nuggets.....a chicken died to make the chicken nugget.....so....why not ours where we know what it ate and what life it lived? Maybe helps them be a little more conscious of food availability and help all of us cut down on waste. Means more when you know where it came from and what it was.



I like deer meat....but the first time I shot a deer it was a....spiritual occasion that I dont know how to describe. It changed my whole perspective and when I ate the backstrap later I was so much more aware and thankful than I had ever been before when people had given me meat.


I dunno, maybe its just me and I'm weird so....yknow. grain of salt and all....(maybe a little pepper too)
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*edit because I said "the first time" but just because that's when I realized....I actually have similar feelings each time anything gets killed to eat.


I would say any animal but thats just not true.....im an insect and rodent murdering motherfucker and I have no emotion. cold blooded assassin of those things.....and some snakes and I dont feel bad about foxes and coyotes that are threatening my animals either....so....yknow.
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TDub wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:52 pm
twocoach wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:27 am
KUTradition wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:54 pm so, who’s up for some lab-grown chicken?
Is it lab grown chicken meat or meat harvested from lab grown chickens? I need to do a little research. It would certainly be nice if we could have chicken meat without having to devote a bunch of land to chicken farms and feed corn and all the waste and fuel it takes to grow and process them.

EDIT: https://apnews.com/article/cultivated-m ... 1cdbf6b39a
a bunch of land for chicken farms? lol
Do you have any concept how much of our land is used by commercial chicken farms and the feed corn that it takes to feed them? Apparently not.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ed-animals

"Tyson Foods utilizes between nine and 10m acres of farmland – an area almost twice the size of New Jersey – to produce corn and soybeans to feed the more than 2 billion animals it processes every year in the US alone, according to new research."

3.1 million acres of soybeans and 1.8 million acres of corn to feed the chickens they produce. And that's just for ONE of the chicken producers in the US.

Yes, the amount of land used to hatch, house and process those billions of chickens per year is likely comparatively smaller than the millions of acres dedicated to feeding them but probably not by a lot.
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twocoach wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:06 am
TDub wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:52 pm
twocoach wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:27 am

Is it lab grown chicken meat or meat harvested from lab grown chickens? I need to do a little research. It would certainly be nice if we could have chicken meat without having to devote a bunch of land to chicken farms and feed corn and all the waste and fuel it takes to grow and process them.

EDIT: https://apnews.com/article/cultivated-m ... 1cdbf6b39a
a bunch of land for chicken farms? lol
Do you have any concept how much of our land is used by commercial chicken farms and the feed corn that it takes to feed them? Apparently not.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ed-animals

"Tyson Foods utilizes between nine and 10m acres of farmland – an area almost twice the size of New Jersey – to produce corn and soybeans to feed the more than 2 billion animals it processes every year in the US alone, according to new research."

3.1 million acres of soybeans and 1.8 million acres of corn to feed the chickens they produce. And that's just for ONE of the chicken producers in the US.

Yes, the amount of land used to hatch, house and process those billions of chickens per year is likely comparatively smaller than the millions of acres dedicated to feeding them but probably not by a lot.
theyre putting 5000 chickens per acre on a lot of these farms.

You need a minimum of 1 acre per cow.

650lbs of meat per cow avg

5 lbs of meat per chicken average

Lbs of meat per acre for cows = 650

lbs of meat per acre for chickens = 25,000




as far as food production....yea...chickens don't use barely any land for commercial operations. Do I agree with the way they raise chickens not at all.
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Looks like maybe he ate some bad chicken. You are welcome, Gutter.
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My guess is some good chicken wouldn't mind being eaten by a guy with a hairy green tongue.
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If Dr. Seuss wasn’t cancelled, we could make a new Grinch movie about this.

Now I have to search for Grinch porn parodies. Porn isn’t worried about being cancelled.
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Yet another argument for keeping the lights on.
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CDC warns about red meat allergy caused by some tick bites

Red meat fans beware.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warns that alpha-gal syndrome (AGS) — a tick-borne illness that causes a red meat allergy — is an emerging public health concern...

Scientists first connected the dots between red meat allergies and tick bites more than a decade ago, when they identified patients who got allergic reactions such as hives or anaphylaxis after eating beef or pork. Most had been bitten by Lone Star ticks.

Now, doctors' understanding of these allergies has evolved.

"What's new is that we have patients who really just have GI symptoms," explains Dr. Sarah McGill, a gastroenterologist at the University of North Carolina. McGill says some alpha-gal syndrome, or AGS, patients feel sick to their stomachs after they eat red meat, but never develop more typical allergic symptoms, such as a rash, swelling or trouble breathing...
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leprosy, malaria…

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well that....and shellfish is disgusting
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