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What I love about the "spent more than two years ago" vapid meme is that it ignores the tattered state of the COVID economy and the start of the Ukraine invasion which destabilized food and energy supplies. Indeed, Trump played a large role in making all of it worse.
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Wake me up when there’s evidence, not tabloid headlines.
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Batboy was the bagman.
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:42 pm Meanwhile.

https://x.com/gtconway3d/status/1691922 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
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And this is really not so different from how Trump may (ok) have been complicit in, and profited from, laundering Soviet oligarch money.

The Saudis give Kushner $2b (from sources ranging from oil to things even less palatable) to invest. He uses it to buy companies. He takes a management fee off the companies. Then when he sells them, he keeps a portion and makes profit distributions (dividends) to the Saudis. Who get clean money.

And of course the Saudis know what the deal is, and can hold it over Jared and the rest forever.
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Camp David summit with Japan and South Korea is a major Biden achievement

By Max Boot and Sue Mi Terry
August 17, 2023 at 1:48 p.m. EDT

It is hard to exaggerate the significance of Friday’s summit at Camp David among President Biden, South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol and Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida. This represents another major step toward the establishment of a new trilateral alliance that could help all three nations cope with the growing threats from North Korea and China in a world destabilized by the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Such a summit would have been unthinkable only two years ago. The primary acclaim must go to the courageous leader of South Korea and the pragmatic leader of Japan for moving beyond historical grievances. But the Biden administration also deserves considerable credit for enabling this rapprochement.

Otto von Bismarck famously said: “Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable — the art of the next best.” The same is true of foreign policy, and Biden, with his decades of experience in both domestic and international politics, has a much surer sense of what is realistically achievable than did his predecessor, Donald Trump, who attained his first government office when he was elected president in 2016.

Trump racked up one solid diplomatic achievement — the Abraham Accords normalizing relations among Israel and three Muslim-majority nations — but he was better at dismantling international structures (e.g., the Iran nuclear deal and the Paris climate accords) than at creating new ones. His boldest forays into diplomacy were his splashy summits with Kim Jong Un, which failed to achieve their unrealistic goal of denuclearizing North Korea.

Biden has had his share of setbacks — e.g., the bungled pullout from Afghanistan and his inability to revive the Iran deal. Overall, however, he has been shrewder and more successful. Biden recognizes — as Trump did not — that it is easier, and often more productive, to strike deals with friends rather than with enemies.

Trump swung for the fences and missed. Biden is hitting solid singles and doubles to put runs on the diplomatic board. He has assembled a vast coalition (including, notably, South Korea and Japan) to support Ukraine in its defense against Russian aggression, negotiated the AUKUS (Australia-U.K.-U.S.) deal to provide nuclear submarines to Australia, and strengthened the “Quad” security dialogue among the United States, Japan, India and Australia.

...The summit with Yoon and Kishida is yet another impressive achievement, considering how hard it was in the past to even get the leaders of South Korea and Japan in the same room...
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Replying to Hunter stuff with Jared stuff is kinda sad. What a low bar.
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Not really. Jared worked in the Whitehouse for Trump when he sold state secrets and got people killed. Hunter is just a drugged out dude that Russia hacked for Trump.
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mjl2 wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:29 pm Replying to Hunter stuff with Jared stuff is kinda sad. What a low bar.
"...ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them...If it could be understood it would not answer their purpose. Their security is in their faculty of shedding darkness, like the cuttle fish, thro’ the element in which they move, and making it impenetrable to the eye of a pursuing enemy. And there they will skulk, until some rational creed can occupy the void which the obliteration of their duperies would leave in the minds of our honest and unsuspecting brethren..."

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No one disputes that Hunter committed some crimes for which he should pay. Thus far, and not for want of trying, republican accusations about said "crimes" has proven to be nothing more than you might expect from an ambitious drug-addict who is also the son of the president, such as trading on his name.

Republicans would have us believe that President Biden has been involved in some of Hunter's exploits and has also broken the law. Every time it becomes obvious again, that republican accusations have no merit, that they have no evidence of such, they move the goalposts and make another accusation, predicated on yet another document or recording they don't have, or yet another laptop or "whistle blower" who has little to nothing to offer either, when it comes to actual evidence supporting the republican accusations about the "Biden Crime Family", de jure.

Pointing out the lack of support for their accusations has no effect. They merely turn their media machines on at Fox, NewsMax, et al, move on to yet another unsupported accusation to whip up their cult with new lies, and there's no evidence this will cease before the Nov 24 election.

Other than promoting tax cuts for the rich, they spend their time attempting to force Christo-Fascism and minority rule on us through the passage of laws restricting the rights of females and minorities, and suppressing their votes. If they're not attacking public education in pursuit of their long-term goal to get us all to pay for their private Christian indoctrination centers, they're going after teachers, banning books, whitewashing history, or attacking corporations that dare to disagree with their Christo-Fascist makeover of American society.

Do they have any policies to directly help Americans? If so, what are they? They didn't even bother to pretend they did in 2020, forgoing a party platform to run on. I wonder if that was a hint, a tell... They talked for four years about "infrastructure week" and yet, nothing. They preach endlessly about "fiscal responsibility" but add trillions to the national debt every time they have control.

These are not serious people. Facts and reality mean nothing to them, only power and forcing their views on everyone do. They are not acting in good faith.

As Jefferson points out, "...ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them", but, "If it could be understood it would not answer their purpose. Their security is in their faculty of shedding darkness...". Like the laws red states pass to restrict abortion using the vaguest language possible to further tie the hands of physicians and those who oppose them, or the criteria for which they ban books that no one can seem to explain, the republican House committees, "BENGHAZI!", aren't in search of the truth, because doing so would only serve to limit their power and take their talking point away from them.

So, that being the case, how do you propose we respond to the never-ending, always evolving subject of the "Biden Crime Family", not to mention their general lack of good faith, other than by "ridicule"?
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mjl2 wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:29 pm Replying to Hunter stuff with Jared stuff is kinda sad. What a low bar.
What Hunter Biden did was to succeed in part due to his father's success. How many politicians whining about this only went to Harvard or Yale because of who their parents were? How many of them only had their employment success people of who their parents were? How many of them support Trump, who leveraged his father's success to make his fortune and whose kids do nothing of value but leverage their Dad's name? This is just another in the long line of stupid things that are ONLY happening because they're mad. Mad that Obama got elected. Mad that Trump's misbehavior is not being ignored. Mad that Biden got elected. It's all just a big annoying attempt at "well we'll show you!"

Whatever, investigate all you want. If something comes of it and it looks like he should go to jail? I have no problem with that. It just gets cornier and cornier every week that passes.
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To me, it’s not a “if they go after Hunter, we go after Jared” thing.

It’s a “the Republicans as presently constituted are a dire threat to our democracy, and conveniently they always manage to tell on themselves by accusing others of doing what they’re doing (but to a much greater degree), so we should be paying attention to what they’re accusing others of doing” thing.
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jfish26 wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:35 am To me, it’s not a “if they go after Hunter, we go after Jared” thing.

It’s a “the Republicans as presently constituted are a dire threat to our democracy, and conveniently they always manage to tell on themselves by accusing others of doing what they’re doing (but to a much greater degree), so we should be paying attention to what they’re accusing others of doing” thing.
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Feral wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:39 am ...ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.

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If only he had access to youtube action film videos.....
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japhy wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:08 pm
Feral wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:39 am ...ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.

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If only he had access to youtube action film videos.....
He was too busy guarding the Boston airport with space lasers from Israel.
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jhawks99 wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:30 pm
japhy wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:08 pm
Feral wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:39 am ...ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.

Thomas Jefferson
If only he had access to youtube action film videos.....
He was too busy guarding the Boston airport with space lasers from Israel.
lol

And here I thought it was Jewish-Italian space lasers.

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Update:



Full disclosure: I'm not watching this, I put it here for non-profit, educational purposes*.







*So I can deduct it from my taxes.
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Would I be accused of going full randoid if I said I dislike everyone in that video.
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jhawks99 wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:43 pm Would I be accused of going full randoid if I said I dislike everyone in that video.
Not at all. All involved were goofballs or idiots.
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