2024

[Sparko]

Oh yeah.

[jfish26]

[Shirley]

I feel like I should pay Filipkowski:

[Shirley]

Wow!

(Full disclosure: Of the potential republican candidates, along with, (lowers head), Chris Christie, Asa Hutchinson is toward the top of my least catastrophic list.)

A few minutes ago: Nicolle Wallace and David Jolly, both former republicans, won't let Asa Hutchinson get away with having pledged to support the republican nominee in order to make it onto the debate stage Wed night, while also saying he won't vote for Trump, if he is. I felt sorry for him, then came back to my senses.

It was like the republican party on trial for their fealty to Trump, for the last 7 years.

[Shirley]

Grifters gonna grift:

[jfish26]

https://defector.com/the-ryder-cup-is-t ... -team-golf

I get election fatigue just like you do. It gets REALLY fucking old. But if we didn’t have elections all the time, that would mean we’re living in a dictatorship, which is worse. So I can deal.

Secondly, don’t get sucked into a negative feedback loop on this shit. Everything Is So Bad Now! is the lowest form of discourse, and it’s everywhere online. You’ve seen that centrist rally tweet out in the wild many times, but everyone who retweets that gag is projecting. They’re the ones who believe that better things aren’t possible, because of the centrists, and the electoral college, and the Senate, and the Supreme Court, and supposed late-stage capitalism.

If you believe that this is true, you’re failing to acknowledge what progress has already been made throughout human history, and you’re discounting the possibility that there can be more of that progress. You are taking the worst things happening right now as the only things happening. This is loser shit, and I won’t have it. Bring me solutions, not problems. Set goals, make a plan, and fight. That’s what our best and most effective progressive leaders are doing as we speak. They’re not fucking boohooing their way to the grave.

Now I’m gonna tell you the deal with next year, but I’m not gonna headline this column with it because then the Jinx Police will see it and flood me with their bullshit. If Donald Trump is the nominee in 2024, he will lose. I know I was wrong about that in 2016, but so was everyone else. If you’re still scarred by his victory, I understand. But we have more than flawed polls to go by this time around. Trump lost the 2020 election decisively, and the 2022 midterms were an even greater, nationwide rejection of his governing philosophy. No amount of election fuckery prevented it. And none of the other current GOP nominees, Ron DeSantis included, have been able to get that party’s base excited, which means they have even less crossover appeal for the general than Trump himself. Maybe Republicans win the Senate. Maybe SCOTUS does more awful shit to negate all of these electoral losses. In fact, the latter is a certainty. But in the aggregate, the country is growing more progressive, and that should hearten you. Don’t be afraid to be confident. The bad guys want you to be scared. To be fatalist. Don’t give them the pleasure. Picture yourself winning, without compromise, and see what happens.

And if you wanna BUT all of that—if you insist that everyone feel despondent about everything—then fuck off. Go waste someone else’s time.

[MICHHAWK]

we get election fatigue because the propaganda machine fires up the election cycle earlier and earlier.

we get no rest from the machine. hence the fatigue.

[MICHHAWK]

because by golly blah blah blah the next election is the most important blah blah blah in the history of the world blah blah blah.

[jfish26]

we get election fatigue because the propaganda machine fires up the election cycle earlier and earlier.

we get no rest from the machine. hence the fatigue.

The frequency of course is literally by design.

[jfish26]

because by golly blah blah blah the next election is the most important blah blah blah in the history of the world blah blah blah.

To be fair, one side of the 2024 election is remorselessly coming off a 2020 election they lost but tried to steal anyway. So they’re telling you that if they win in 2024, they won’t accept losses in 2028.

[MICHHAWK]

To be fair, one side of the 2024 election is remorselessly coming off a 2020 election they lost but tried to steal anyway. So they’re telling you that if they win in 2024, they won’t accept losses in 2028.

EDIT for propaganda machine talking point

[jfish26]

To be fair, one side of the 2024 election is remorselessly coming off a 2020 election they lost but tried to steal anyway. So they’re telling you that if they win in 2024, they won’t accept losses in 2028.

EDIT for propaganda machine talking point

Reality will be ready for you, when you’re ready to sit at the big boy table.

[ousdahl]

Among other reactions, pretty fun how “late-stage capitalism” is becoming more and more of a buzzword.

well, supposedly.

[DCHawk1]

https://defector.com/the-ryder-cup-is-t ... -team-golf

I get election fatigue just like you do. It gets REALLY fucking old. But if we didn’t have elections all the time, that would mean we’re living in a dictatorship, which is worse. So I can deal.

Secondly, don’t get sucked into a negative feedback loop on this shit. Everything Is So Bad Now! is the lowest form of discourse, and it’s everywhere online. You’ve seen that centrist rally tweet out in the wild many times, but everyone who retweets that gag is projecting. They’re the ones who believe that better things aren’t possible, because of the centrists, and the electoral college, and the Senate, and the Supreme Court, and supposed late-stage capitalism.

If you believe that this is true, you’re failing to acknowledge what progress has already been made throughout human history, and you’re discounting the possibility that there can be more of that progress. You are taking the worst things happening right now as the only things happening. This is loser shit, and I won’t have it. Bring me solutions, not problems. Set goals, make a plan, and fight. That’s what our best and most effective progressive leaders are doing as we speak. They’re not fucking boohooing their way to the grave.

Now I’m gonna tell you the deal with next year, but I’m not gonna headline this column with it because then the Jinx Police will see it and flood me with their bullshit. If Donald Trump is the nominee in 2024, he will lose. I know I was wrong about that in 2016, but so was everyone else. If you’re still scarred by his victory, I understand. But we have more than flawed polls to go by this time around. Trump lost the 2020 election decisively, and the 2022 midterms were an even greater, nationwide rejection of his governing philosophy. No amount of election fuckery prevented it. And none of the other current GOP nominees, Ron DeSantis included, have been able to get that party’s base excited, which means they have even less crossover appeal for the general than Trump himself. Maybe Republicans win the Senate. Maybe SCOTUS does more awful shit to negate all of these electoral losses. In fact, the latter is a certainty. But in the aggregate, the country is growing more progressive, and that should hearten you. Don’t be afraid to be confident. The bad guys want you to be scared. To be fatalist. Don’t give them the pleasure. Picture yourself winning, without compromise, and see what happens.

And if you wanna BUT all of that—if you insist that everyone feel despondent about everything—then fuck off. Go waste someone else’s time.

LOL

I mean...it's already starting...

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ut/675054/

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/21/opin ... cracy.html

(The headline on the NYT article was changed from "Elections are bad for democracy," when they realized what fucksticks they sounded like.)

[DCHawk1]

To be fair, one side of the 2024 election is remorselessly coming off a 2020 election they lost but tried to steal anyway. So they’re telling you that if they win in 2024, they won’t accept losses in 2028.

EDIT for propaganda machine talking point

Reality will be ready for you, when you’re ready to sit at the big boy table.

I mean...

[Shirley]

I'm old enough to remember when the republican party was thought to be in array.

[DCHawk1]

I'm old enough to remember when the republican party was thought to be in array.

Was it when your new heroes were running never-ending wars in Iraq or Afghanistan?

Or when they were protecting their pedophile buddy?

[Shirley]

I'm old enough to remember when the republican party was thought to be in array.

Was it when your new heroes were running never-ending wars in Iraq or Afghanistan?

Or when they were protecting their pedophile buddy?

Yes, I think republicans were much more in array when they were busy lying us into the war in Iraq, and invaded Afghanistan with no discernible plan. Wouldn't you agree?

As far as the sex scandal, I've never paid that much attention to it. (Why would I, they're republicans?) I know it involved a long-time republican, a former aide to McCain and Kasich, and caused a lot of drama in the group.

Sad though that is, to my knowledge, none of them represent an existential threat to our country, to the rule of law, to women, to minorities, to LGBTQ Americans, to free and fair elections, the peaceful transfer of power, and to the constitution. Or, am I missing something, since you certainly know your party better than I do?

It always surprises me when you bring this up.

Do you expect the Ukrainian government to refuse the help of the Azov Brigade?

Of course you don't.

When it comes to the republican Trump personality cult and the threat it poses, I haven't thought about it, but I guess I'm willing to overlook some things that I might not otherwise.

Pro tip: The enemy of my enemy is my friend, especially when it comes to preventing the people in your party from ending the American experiment as we've known it.

What would you do?

What's more important than that?

[DCHawk1]

What would I do?

Not give Reed Galen any more attention (and grifted millions) than he already has.

For starters.

Also, for the record, they're all officially not Republicans.

[Shirley]