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But we now have proof the biden family has been bribed for years. All these million dollar payments from foreign entities. Hate trump all you want I don't care, but take a closer look at your guy biden. An honest look. He's might be the most corrupt politician we've had in the White House.

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saying this a thousand times doesn’t make it true, dipshit

there remains ZERO proof of the POTUS’ supposed corruption

but good job, keep proving what most everyone here already knows
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randylahey wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:21 am
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:17 am
randylahey wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:05 am

Click bait goes both ways

https://nypost.com/2023/08/20/as-inflat ... -and-lies/
Right.
Unless I am mistaken, I don't believe anyone on here has claimed Biden doesn't/hasn't lied.
Speaking for myself, I'm not someone who pretends/says Biden hasn't lied, nor am I someone who minimizes Trump's lies. I was just providing you a few sources.

I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused. Were you excusing Trump's lies and bullshit because Biden lies and says bullshit?
I'm still wondering what was the point of your sharing the Mindsetoftherich video of Trump?
Nope just calling out the double standard. No politician had ever made it far in politics without lying.

But we now have proof the biden family has been bribed for years. All these million dollar payments from foreign entities. Hate trump all you want I don't care, but take a closer look at your guy biden. An honest look. He's might be the most corrupt politician we've had in the White House. And he's withering away from old age.

There is no argument for why he should be reelected. Literally anyone else at this point
Yes, there is a double standard (double meaning two - both ways).
Ok, but that doesn't help me understand why you shared the Mindsetoftherich video.

You say to me, "your guy Biden". Biden isn't my guy. I don't like Joe Biden as my President. I didn't vote for him in the 2020 Democratic Primary but I suppose you're right that he was "my guy" when I preferred he be elected President over Trump. When I vote for President of course the person running is what I primarily consider but I also consider who the candidates surround themselves with.
Impossible for me to forget that Trump said how great the majority of those he chose to support him in various important roles were when he first brought them on - only to end up shitting on them and saying how horrible they were at their jobs. PART of that is on TRUMP and a reflection of TRUMP. Dontchathink?

Assuming he's on the ballot (I'm not 100% convinced he will be) I will NOT vote for Biden in 2024 but I sure as shit won't vote for Trump (assuming he's on the ballot) either.
I don't know if it's the biggest "argument" for Biden to be re-elected is that he's not Donald Trump, but it definitely is a valid "argument" - for a lot of people. Just as it was a valid argument to vote for Trump - that he wasn't Hillary.

Sit down for this one - I actually agree with you that I MIGHT prefer pretty much anyone over 4 more years of Biden - but the problem for me is my choice/s of "pretty much anyone" will be limited to a Turd Sandwich and/or a Giant Douche.
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I always ask people this in the trump/biden debate.

What's policies does biden put forth that you think improves America more than trumps policies would??
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what specific policies is trump running on?

the list of legislative accomplishments by the current administration continues to grow
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randylahey wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:26 am I always ask people this in the trump/biden debate.

What's policies does biden put forth that you think improves America more than trumps policies would??
Please point me to the planks of the 2020 GOP platform that I should contrast Biden’s policies to.
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KUTradition wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:33 am what specific policies is trump running on?

the list of legislative accomplishments by the current administration continues to grow
Biden has done an excellent job of simply doing the job. Perfect, absolutely not.

But his political skill shines through in how he’s handled McCarthy, and our European and Indo-Pacific allies, and so on.

He has made our country a formally more welcoming and tolerant and less angry place.

On-shoring manufacturing and production while leaning into energy efficiency and renewables.

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back in the Paris accords (yes, really only symbolic, but still important imo)

infrastructure act

chips act

retooling student loan program (this is apart from loan forgiveness)

restrengthening international alliances

while there are absolutely shortcomings, this administration has been one of the most aggressive at addressing climate and environmental justice
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:48 am
KUTradition wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:33 am what specific policies is trump running on?

the list of legislative accomplishments by the current administration continues to grow
Biden has done an excellent job of simply doing the job. Perfect, absolutely not.

But his political skill shines through in how he’s handled McCarthy, and our European and Indo-Pacific allies, and so on.

He has made our country a formally more welcoming and tolerant and less angry place.

On-shoring manufacturing and production while leaning into energy efficiency and renewables.

When electing a president, you’re not choosing someone you’ll marry. You’re choosing which airline to take.
^^^

And if the airline doesn't take you exactly where you want to go, you don't not fly, you fly as close as you can and continue the journey to your destination from there.

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jfish26 wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:48 am
KUTradition wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:33 am what specific policies is trump running on?

the list of legislative accomplishments by the current administration continues to grow
Biden has done an excellent job of simply doing the job. Perfect, absolutely not.

But his political skill shines through in how he’s handled McCarthy, and our European and Indo-Pacific allies, and so on.

He has made our country a formally more welcoming and tolerant and less angry place.

On-shoring manufacturing and production while leaning into energy efficiency and renewables.

When electing a president, you’re not choosing someone you’ll marry. You’re choosing which airline to take.
I'm for continued research and expansion of renewable energies, but efficient does not belong in that statement. There is nothing efficient about those technologies yet. Not compared to fossil fuels. So far, we are fucked without fossil fuels
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Green energy is actually really efficient if there is a commitment not to sabotage it. Mass transit electric trains and next generation ships and aircraft. But change is scary.
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the alternative to changes in our energy infrastructure is even scarier
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Sparko wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:53 am Green energy is actually really efficient if there is a commitment not to sabotage it. Mass transit electric trains and next generation ships and aircraft. But change is scary.
Efficiency comes with adoption. Criticism of the efficiency of renewables and carbon alternatives is solely rooted in preventing adoption.

It’s just a variation on the usual R playbook, of (1) break the bad thing, and (2) blame the bad thing for not working.
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O’Donnell predicted that Trump’s mug shot may be on the front page of every newspaper in the world by Friday.

And that’s only the beginning.

O’Donnell said:

“Donald Trump’s mug shot will be in history books. It will become the most widely seen single photograph of Donald Trump’s entire life, possibly the most widely seen photograph of any American president in history. It will be the photograph that defines his life and his presidency for hundreds of years.”

The image, he added, “will be the greatest humiliation Donald Trump has suffered in the 77 years of his relentlessly humiliating life.”
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it’ll be sad if that image eclipses those of Washington or Lincoln
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japhy wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:46 am O’Donnell predicted that Trump’s mug shot may be on the front page of every newspaper in the world by Friday.

And that’s only the beginning.

O’Donnell said:

“Donald Trump’s mug shot will be in history books. It will become the most widely seen single photograph of Donald Trump’s entire life, possibly the most widely seen photograph of any American president in history. It will be the photograph that defines his life and his presidency for hundreds of years.”

The image, he added, “will be the greatest humiliation Donald Trump has suffered in the 77 years of his relentlessly humiliating life.”
At least we can count on that "They aren't indicting me...they are indicting you" scowl in his picture.

You know, the scowl that gives guys like Mich and Randy little tiny tents in their pants.
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My guess would be that Findling told Trump the rules for going ahead, and Trump wasn’t willing to let Findling do his job the right way.
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:11 pm

My guess would be that Findling told Trump the rules for going ahead, and Trump wasn’t willing to let Findling do his job the right way.
Hey, if I were Findling, I would get "fired" ASAP.
It's not like he will see a nickle from Trump.


But hey, keep those donations coming in folks...that 757 doesn't operate on shitty hat profits alone.
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Spin begins that this was a great strategic lawyer dump in 3-2-1. . .
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Sparko wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:22 pm Spin begins that this was a great strategic lawyer dump in 3-2-1. . .
There are also more technical things at work. There are rules that can serve to prohibit a lawyer from withdrawing from representing a client, and I’d imagine, for a lot of reasons, that one might not want to find themselves locked into this.
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From a comment:

This is pretty hilarious. The guy, front-right, is recognizable from being placed right behind Trump at rallies. Pathetic isn't a strong enough word

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