an even more frightening perspective

Coffee talk.
dolomite
Contributor
Posts: 1900
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:26 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by dolomite »

KUTradition wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:36 pm https://steadystate.org/which-future/
Let us know when the temperature of the earth starts reversing in a meaningful way.😀
Originally Imzcount (Why do politicians think “hope” is a plan ?)
“Avoid the foolish notion of hope. Hope is the surrender of authority to your fate and trusting it to the whims of the wind”.
Taylor Sheridan
User avatar
KUTradition
Contributor
Posts: 13889
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:53 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by KUTradition »

ok?
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
User avatar
KUTradition
Contributor
Posts: 13889
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:53 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by KUTradition »

https://www.salon.com/2023/08/29/the-go ... %20Chevron.

…Taking aim at Joe Biden's 2022 Inflation Reduction Act, Project 2025 proposes to erase clean energy programs from the federal government entirely while boosting the production of fossil fuels.

Republicans are still chafed over Biden's trademark legislation of last year, which is by far the most significant climate act passed in U.S. history, and is meant to incentivize and hasten the transition to a clean energy economy. The IRA only took effect in January, and it will take at least a year before its economic benefits are felt in any significant way. Anxious to prevent that from happening, conservatives have promulgated Project 2025, which proposes shredding any and all regulations designed to curb greenhouse gas emissions from cars, power plants, and oil and gas wells.

Formulated by the Heritage Foundation and distributed to all Republican presidential hopefuls ahead of the first debate, the plan would dismantle virtually all federal efforts at reducing the nation's carbon footprint in a blatant effort to bolster the fossil fuel industries, which are rapidly losing market share to greener, cleaner alternatives that in many cases are already more cost-effective, or soon will be.

No candidate in last week's debate discussed the realities of climate destruction or how rising global temperatures are fueling the migrant crisis or worsening problems on the U.S.-Mexico border. Nor did anyone acknowledge that the GOP's rejection of atmospheric science is really about campaign finance. That the Heritage Foundation, and Project 2025, are financed by the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation and Koch Industries, among the deepest fossil fuel pockets in the world, also went unmentioned…
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
User avatar
Shirley
Contributor
Posts: 16554
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:29 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by Shirley »

It sucks to be from the same town as a couple of the greediest pieces of shit in the history of the world.

Much like the "limited", "small government" republican party, I'm old enough to remember when the Heritage Foundation had a patina of credibility, or so we thought.
“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
Derek Cressman
User avatar
KUTradition
Contributor
Posts: 13889
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:53 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by KUTradition »

just saw a stat that 12% of Americans eat half of all the beef consumed nationally in a day
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
dolomite
Contributor
Posts: 1900
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:26 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by dolomite »

Things that don’t help the cause, LOL

https://apnews.com/article/us-open-dela ... aa6ca08a0d
Originally Imzcount (Why do politicians think “hope” is a plan ?)
“Avoid the foolish notion of hope. Hope is the surrender of authority to your fate and trusting it to the whims of the wind”.
Taylor Sheridan
User avatar
Shirley
Contributor
Posts: 16554
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:29 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by Shirley »

dolomite wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 1:34 pm Things that don’t help the cause, LOL

https://apnews.com/article/us-open-dela ... aa6ca08a0d
^^^

I didn't want to embarrass Trad, but if anyone has been wondering where he's been...
“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
Derek Cressman
dolomite
Contributor
Posts: 1900
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:26 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by dolomite »

Shirley wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:32 pm [quote=dolomite post_id=354545 time=<a href="tel:1694284489">1694284489</a> user_id=125]
Things that don’t help the cause, LOL

https://apnews.com/article/us-open-dela ... aa6ca08a0d
^^^

I didn't want to embarrass Trad, but if anyone has been wondering where he's been...
[/quote]
Shirley wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:32 pm
dolomite wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 1:34 pm Things that don’t help the cause, LOL

https://apnews.com/article/us-open-dela ... aa6ca08a0d
^^^

I didn't want to embarrass Trad, but if anyone has been wondering where he's been...
I know he usually jumps on every post I make. He’s probably on vacation.
Originally Imzcount (Why do politicians think “hope” is a plan ?)
“Avoid the foolish notion of hope. Hope is the surrender of authority to your fate and trusting it to the whims of the wind”.
Taylor Sheridan
User avatar
KUTradition
Contributor
Posts: 13889
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:53 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by KUTradition »

Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
User avatar
Shirley
Contributor
Posts: 16554
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:29 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by Shirley »

Hope your feet are OK Trad?

Welcome back.
“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
Derek Cressman
User avatar
KUTradition
Contributor
Posts: 13889
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:53 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by KUTradition »

an anniversary and birthday shrouded in wildfire smoke…thanks, Canada

on a positive note, i just read that all oil and gas leases in ANWR have been cancelled (now we just need the same to be done in the Western Arctic Reserve)

i guess half-measures are better than none…
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
User avatar
KUTradition
Contributor
Posts: 13889
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:53 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by KUTradition »

Libya flood death toll projected to reach 20K
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
User avatar
Shirley
Contributor
Posts: 16554
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:29 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by Shirley »

KUTradition wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:38 am Libya flood death toll projected to reach 20K
Libya is in Africa, so "shithole country", right?

Besides, those ~ 20,000 were going to die someday anyway.


(Am I doing it right, Randy?)
“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
Derek Cressman
User avatar
KUTradition
Contributor
Posts: 13889
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:53 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by KUTradition »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... insurance/

Home insurers cut natural disasters from policies as climate risks grow

Some of the largest U.S. insurance companies say extreme weather has led them to end certain coverages, exclude natural disaster protections and raise premiums.

At least five large U.S. property insurers — including Allstate, American Family, Nationwide, Erie Insurance Group and Berkshire Hathaway — have told regulators that extreme weather patterns caused by climate change have led them to stop writing coverages in some regions, exclude protections from various weather events and raise monthly premiums and deductibles...
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
User avatar
MICHHAWK
Posts: 6090
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:01 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by MICHHAWK »

who is the greater modern day villain. the teachers union. or the insurance companies.
jfish26
Contributor
Posts: 18665
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:41 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by jfish26 »

MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:53 pm who is the greater modern day villain. the teachers union. or the insurance companies.
What exactly would you say the insurance companies are supposed to do here?

I only see bad options - and, at the risk of going against what you perceive to be my leanings, it sure feels to me like the risks of living in places that are or are becoming inhospitable to human life...should be borne by those who make the choice to live in those places.
jfish26
Contributor
Posts: 18665
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:41 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by jfish26 »

https://thepointsguy.com/news/sneak-pee ... n-arizona/

Image

"Your developers were so preoccupied with whether they could [air condition and water the desert] that they didn't stop to think about whether they should [air condition and water the desert]."
User avatar
KUTradition
Contributor
Posts: 13889
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:53 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by KUTradition »

fossil fuel subsidies topped $7 trillion in 2022 (just in the US)

what in the absolute fuck
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
dolomite
Contributor
Posts: 1900
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:26 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by dolomite »

KUTradition wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 12:18 pm an anniversary and birthday shrouded in wildfire smoke…thanks, Canada

on a positive note, i just read that all oil and gas leases in ANWR have been cancelled (now we just need the same to be done in the Western Arctic Reserve)

i guess half-measures are better than none…
Yes, drop(s) in the bucket.
Originally Imzcount (Why do politicians think “hope” is a plan ?)
“Avoid the foolish notion of hope. Hope is the surrender of authority to your fate and trusting it to the whims of the wind”.
Taylor Sheridan
User avatar
ousdahl
Posts: 29999
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:55 am

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Post by ousdahl »

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/16/11999749 ... ate-change

California sues oil giants, saying they downplayed climate change. Here's what to know
Post Reply